Webpage title: How Fast Does the Shadow of a Dropped Ball Move Along the Ground?

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The problem involves a basketball dropped from a height, with a light source casting a shadow on the ground. The goal is to determine the speed of the shadow one second after the ball is dropped, using principles of kinematics and related rates.

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  • Participants explore the relationship between the vertical and horizontal components of the motion, considering the use of similar triangles to relate the height of the ball and the length of the shadow.
  • Some participants question the assumption of horizontal movement, noting that the ball is dropped vertically.
  • There is discussion about deriving a formula for the shadow's movement by differentiating relationships between the dimensions involved.

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Some participants have provided insights into the geometric relationships and differentiation needed to find the shadow's speed. There is ongoing exploration of the assumptions regarding the ball's motion and the implications for calculating the shadow's speed.

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Participants are working under the constraints of the problem's setup, including the heights and distances provided, and the assumption that the ball's motion is purely vertical. There is a lack of consensus on certain aspects of the motion and the resulting calculations.

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Homework Statement


a basket ball is dropped from a height of 10 m and at a horizontal distance of 2 m from a light pole. A light source at the top of the light pole is 15 m above the ground. How fast is the shadow of the ball moving along the ground one second after the ball is dropped? it can be assumed that t seconds after the ball is released, the distance dropped is given by s = 5t2


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kinematics (I suppose)


The Attempt at a Solution


I don't have any ideas..

This is the thing that I've done :

after 1 s :
s = 5 m
v = u + at = 9.8 ms-1

I don't know what to do about the shadow...

Thanks
 
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Related rates problem? If so, you have to come up with a formula that relates the horizontal with the vertical of a triangle. Then differentiate that to come up with an equation that you can solve dx/dt for, which is what you are looking for.
 
Using horizontal distance and the height of then projection find the horizontal velocity v.
After time t the horizontal displacement of the ball is v*t. Let the length of the shadow be x, and the vertical displacement ball is 5*t^2.
After time t the vertical position of ball from the light is = ...?
Draw the line joining the ball and the light and extend it to the ground. Now you can get two similar triangles. Then take the ratio of the proportionate sides. And find dx/dt.
 
Hi pynergee and rl.bhat
rl.bhat said:
Using horizontal distance and the height of then projection find the horizontal velocity v.
After time t the horizontal displacement of the ball is v*t.
I think the horizontal velocity and displacement of the ball is zero because the ball is dropped so the trajectory of the ball is vertically downward, not parabolic?

Let the length of the shadow be x, and the vertical displacement ball is 5*t^2.
After time t the vertical position of ball from the light is = ...?
Draw the line joining the ball and the light and extend it to the ground. Now you can get two similar triangles. Then take the ratio of the proportionate sides. And find dx/dt.

This is what I've tried. Assuming that the ball only has vertical movement, from similar triangles I got :

\frac{15}{2+x}=\frac{5+5t^2}{2}

x=\frac{6}{1+t^2}-2

\frac{dx}{dt}=\frac{-12t}{(1+t^2)^2}

For t = 1 :

\frac{dx}{dt}=-3~ ms^{-1}

Am I right?

Thanks
 

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