Webpage title: Is the US Justified in Their Assassination Policy?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the legality and justification of the US assassination policy, particularly in the context of military actions against political figures such as Saddam Hussein. Participants explore international law, historical precedents, and the implications of US military strategy during wartime.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question whether international law prohibits the assassination of political figures, noting that the US has historically opposed such actions.
  • Others argue that international law does not clearly ban the assassination of heads of state during wartime, suggesting that the rules may differ in conflict scenarios.
  • A participant asserts that the US military's targeting of Saddam Hussein was justified as he was a combatant in an armed conflict.
  • Concerns are raised about the legality of targeting civilians and the implications of US military actions, with some suggesting that legality is often disregarded in wartime.
  • There is mention of a 1970s executive order that purportedly prohibits US presidents from ordering assassinations, though participants debate its enforceability and relevance.
  • Some participants express skepticism about the adherence to international norms and question the consistency of US policy regarding assassinations.
  • A hypothetical scenario is presented regarding the legality of retaliatory actions by Saddam Hussein against US leaders, prompting further discussion on the nature of warfare and legal accountability.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the legality of the US assassination policy or the implications of international law. Multiple competing views remain regarding the justification of such actions during wartime and the interpretation of relevant laws.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include varying interpretations of international law, the ambiguity surrounding executive orders, and the historical context of US military actions. The discussion reflects differing opinions on the moral and legal frameworks governing warfare.

  • #31
Originally posted by Bystander
You indicted Nixon for the Xmas bombing in one post, and in the following cite Geneva regarding the location of military targets in civilian areas; the assignation of risk to civilians in Hanoi was an act of the NV govt. --- end of U.S. culpability for collateral damage. Need I directly call you hypocritical in your application of Geneva conventions? Which I am not, I am asking you to re-examine the information you have presented, and to acknowledge that you have opined re. Nixon without a full application of the information you had available.

Quartering troops within a city, or having factories that produce military materiel within a city is not considered an attempt to make them invulnerable to attack. That would require somethink like barracksing troops in residential homes, or building munitions factories contiguous to hospitals.

The bombing of Hanoi was not directed at specific targets. It was directed at the city as a whole. This is specifically banned by the Geneva convention. You may target factories or barracks, and many of your bombs may miss and kill civilians. That is not a violation. But bombing a city in general, in the hopes of destroying factories or randomly killing soldiers has been a warcrime since 1947. Hanoi was perpetually fogged in at that time of the year. There were no GPS guided bombs.


I had stated, "It is considered a violation to...Target a civilian area for indiscriminate attack because it has legal targets within it."

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  • #32
Greetings !

Back to the subject of this thread...
Originally posted by Monique
I just wonder, isn't there an international law against performing an assassination on political figures? I thought that the US felt strongly against assassinations because of the incidents Marther Luther King, Kennedy, and others?

Then why is the US military trying so desperately to bomb buildings of which they have intelligence that Saddam & regime is staying there? The window of opportunity as it was called of the first bombing of Bagdad was solely intended to kill Saddam and his sons right? I would think that this falls under the chapter of war-crimes, does it not..
I see nothing wrong with the "assassination policy"
AGAINST war criminals and potential murdereres.
I'm not sure about international law about this
sort of stuff. However, is seems very foolish not
to do this if such an action has the potential
to prevent a much wider military action which has
the potential to get civilians and military
personel killed or the lack of such an action which
will allow that person to continue killing, it will
also allow to avert causing a lot of material damage
and wasting lots of resources.

Laws are general directives that are "good" for
most cases but they are not perfect - there are
always exceptions. That's why Kirk would violate
the Prime Directive so many times when it seemed
that not doing so will abviously lead to disaster.
And back to to more "real" examples - had there been
a possibility of capturing one of the terrorists
or one of their connection people before 9/11 - would
it be wrong to torture the man to make him talk ?
Had it been known that the planes were already
captured and were heading for Manhatan, would it
be wrong to shoot them down ?

The "idea" of laws is to protect certain ideas
or ideals if you like. Since there can always be
exceptions, is seems more reasonable to follow
the ideas that the majority of people accepts
rather than the laws. This may not work on a
"private" level because it creates a dangerous
"openning" for crime and because private citizens
have a larger authority "above" them that is there
to take care of such problems, but it is a different
matter when it comes to democratic goverments.

In conclusion, my answer is simply - why not ?

Live long and prosper.
 
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