Weird Defensive Force Field of Alien Space Probe

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The discussion revolves around a scenario involving astronauts investigating an alien probe that generates a defensive force field. The problem is situated in the context of potential and kinetic energy, focusing on the mechanical energy of two astronauts, Susie and Fred, at specific distances from the probe.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between potential energy and maximum speed, with some attempting to model the situation using familiar Earthbound contexts. Questions arise regarding how to calculate kinetic energy and the implications of conservation laws on the problem.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants exploring different interpretations of the energy relationships involved. Some guidance has been offered regarding the conservation of energy, but no consensus has been reached on the specific calculations needed to determine speeds.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working with specific energy values and distances, but there are uncertainties regarding the application of these values to find maximum and final speeds. The setup of the problem involves assumptions about potential energy curves and their implications for motion.

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In a rather bad science fiction movie, astronauts Susie (mass 60 kg) and Fred (mass 86 kg) are investigating an alien probe. All of a sudden, the probe starts to produce a weird defensive force field. Their space ship's board computer scans the field and produces the above plot of the potential energy that Susie and Fred would have at different distances from the probe. The potential continues to be zero at larger distances than shown.

The computer locates Susie drifting toward the probe at a distance of 5 m with a total (mechanical) energy of 7 kJ, and Fred, also drifting toward the probe, at a distance of 6 m with a total (mechanical) energy of 9 kJ. One Kilojoule (kJ) is 103 Joules.

1.) What will be Fred's maximum speed?
2.) What will be Fred's final speed?

E[SUB m]=K+U K=(1/2)mv^2 How I began Solving: I began by using what is given to find out how much potential energy Fred had. I know that the maximum speed will occur by using one of the turning points on the graph. I am not sure though how to use the information given to find the maximum speed and final speed.

Thank You.
 
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It might help you to think about it if you model it in a simple Earthbound context. How might you set up a potential energy curve like that?
 
haruspex said:
It might help you to think about it if you model it in a simple Earthbound context. How might you set up a potential energy curve like that?
Well I know that the the maximum speed occurs when the potential energy is at its minimum. The potential energy is at a minimum at x=5m. I am looking for the maximum velocity but I don't know how to find the kinetic energy at the point.
 
pkwhitey said:
Well I know that the the maximum speed occurs when the potential energy is at its minimum. The potential energy is at a minimum at x=5m. I am looking for the maximum velocity but I don't know how to find the kinetic energy at the point.
Yes, the max speed will be at minimum PE. That follows from a certain conservation law. That law tells you more than just that, though. What is that law in full?
 
haruspex said:
Yes, the max speed will be at minimum PE. That follows from a certain conservation law. That law tells you more than just that, though. What is that law in full?
Ok, I understand. EM= U+K U=-8kJ and EM=9kJ 17kJ=.5mv^2 solve for v.

Thank you.
 

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