What is the Kinetic Energy of a Space Probe Launched from Zero?

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The problem involves a space probe being launched from the surface of a hypothetical planet named Zero, focusing on kinetic and potential energy in a gravitational field. The discussion centers around calculating the kinetic energy of the probe at a specific distance from the planet's center and determining the necessary initial kinetic energy for the probe to reach a maximum distance.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss using conservation of energy principles to relate potential and kinetic energy at different points in the probe's trajectory. Questions arise regarding the assumptions about the probe's motion, particularly whether it could be in orbit and how that affects its kinetic energy.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on the approach to solving the problem, suggesting that the original poster clarify their calculations and consider the implications of potential energy changes. There is an ongoing exploration of the assumptions regarding the probe's trajectory, with no explicit consensus reached on the interpretation of the problem.

Contextual Notes

The problem does not specify whether the probe enters an orbit, leading to uncertainty about its kinetic energy at maximum distance. Participants are navigating these assumptions while adhering to homework constraints.

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Homework Statement


Zero, a hypothetical planet, has a mass of 5.0*10^23 kg, a radius of 3.0*10^6m, and no atmosphere. A 10kg space probe is to be launched vertically from its surface. (a) If the probe is launched with an initial energy of 5.0*10^7 J, what will its kinetic energy be when it is 4.0*10^6m from the center of Zero? (b) If the probe is to achieve a maximum distance of 8.0*10^6m from the center of Zero, with what initial kinetic energy must it be launched from the surface of Zero?

Homework Equations


U = -\frac{GMm}{r}

U_f + K_f = U_i + K_i

The Attempt at a Solution


For part a I attempted to find the potential energy while the probe was on the surface of the planet then find the final potential energy when the probe is at the correct distance then since I knew the total energy and the gravity force is conservative I though I'd use conservation of energy and find the change in potential energy and use that to somehow find K, but it didn't work and I'm clueless...

For part b I don't even know where to begin...
 
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It sounds like you have the right idea for a). But I can't tell what went wrong without knowing what your numbers are. For b) it's the same thing, you know the difference in potential energy between the surface and the destination, final kinetic energy is zero, then just solve for initial.
 
Dick said:
It sounds like you have the right idea for a). But I can't tell what went wrong without knowing what your numbers are. For b) it's the same thing, you know the difference in potential energy between the surface and the destination, final kinetic energy is zero, then just solve for initial.

Ah for b I though about doing that but I wasn't sure if the probe started to orbit the plant, wouldn't it have kinetic energy if it did? And is there anyway to tell it isn't since the problem never stated anything about that.

Thanks for the help by the way.
 
Feldoh said:
Ah for b I though about doing that but I wasn't sure if the probe started to orbit the plant, wouldn't it have kinetic energy if it did? And is there anyway to tell it isn't since the problem never stated anything about that.

Thanks for the help by the way.

Well, it doesn't say anything about orbiting, so I'd assume all motion was vertical.
 
Ah ok, thanks
 

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