What Angle Minimizes Force to Make a Block Slip?

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The discussion revolves around determining the angle theta that minimizes the force required to make a block slip when pulled at an angle with respect to the horizontal. The problem involves concepts from static friction and forces acting on the block.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between the angle theta and the force F required to initiate slipping. There are attempts to differentiate functions and explore the implications of maximizing certain expressions. Questions arise about the interpretation of minimizing force versus minimizing angle.

Discussion Status

Some participants have proposed methods involving calculus to find the minimum angle, while others are clarifying the objective of the problem. There is an ongoing exploration of different interpretations of the problem statement, with no explicit consensus reached yet.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of the problem setup, including the definitions of force, angle, and friction. There is a mention of the coefficient of friction and its role in the equations being discussed.

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Homework Statement


A person pulls on a block with a force F, at an angle theta with respect to the horizontal. The coefficient of friction between the block and the ground is mu. For what theta is the F required to make the block slip a minimum.


Homework Equations



Net force equations for static objects

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So I'm pretty sure I've got all of my equations right, but I'm having trouble simplifying my results further.
[tex]Ff=\mu N[/tex] when the box slips and [tex]N=Mg-Fsin\theta[/tex] Substitution gives [tex]\mu\left(Mg-Fsin\theta\right)=Fcos\theta[/tex] I don't know how to solve for theta.
 
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For theta for minimum F, write F as an explicit function of theta and differentiate w.r.t theta. Put it equal to zero(the calculus concept of maxima and minima).
 
But I'm not trying to find the minimum F, I'm trying to find the minimum theta.
 
Ok I think I have it now. I maximize the denominator in [tex]F=\frac{\mu Mg}{cos\theta+\mu sin\theta}[/tex] so the derivative is [tex]\mu cos\theta-sin\theta=0[/tex] So [tex]tan\theta=\mu[/tex]
 
As an afterthought, don't you think the minimum theta is zero?
 

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