What are some of your favorite science-fiction novels?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around participants sharing their favorite science-fiction novels, providing brief descriptions and personal opinions on why they enjoy these works. The scope includes various sub-genres of science fiction, such as hard science fiction, space opera, and humorous sci-fi, as well as recommendations for summer reading.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants recommend "Pushing Ice" by Alistair Reynolds for its epic hard-SF space opera narrative involving a comet mining crew.
  • Others highlight the "Hyperion/Endymion" series by Dan Simmons for its artful world-building and character development, though opinions vary on its execution.
  • Several participants express mixed feelings about "Hyperion," with some enjoying it while others found it difficult to engage with due to its unconventional narrative elements.
  • Participants mention "Childhood's End" and "Ringworld" as significant favorites, with multiple endorsements for both titles.
  • Neal Stephenson's "Diamond Age" is noted for its unique blend of Victorian themes and nanotechnology, with varying opinions on its oddness and enjoyment factor.
  • Some participants suggest humorous sci-fi, such as "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy," and seek recommendations for light-hearted reads without complex scientific inaccuracies.
  • Vernor Vinge's "Zones of Thought" series is introduced as a softer sci-fi option, exploring different laws of physics in various zones.
  • Participants discuss preferences regarding the hardness of science fiction, referencing the Mohs Scale of Science Fiction Hardness, with differing opinions on where they fall on the scale.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no consensus on a single favorite novel, as participants express a wide range of preferences and opinions on various titles. Some participants agree on the merits of specific books, while others present competing views on the same works.

Contextual Notes

Some discussions reflect personal biases and subjective experiences with the novels, leading to varying interpretations of the same works. The conversation also touches on the challenge of defining what constitutes "good" science fiction, influenced by individual tastes and expectations.

Who May Find This Useful

Readers interested in science fiction literature, particularly those looking for recommendations across different sub-genres, including hard science fiction, humorous sci-fi, and character-driven narratives.

  • #301
Buzz Bloom said:
Hi Dave:
I have a feeling we are not talking about the same "flaw".

For starters, I grant the premise that the universe could be closed, and could contract again. That's not my beef.

The flaw I'm talking about is the idea of being able to stay "outside" the Big Crunch to the new Big Bang..

In the same way "our" Big Bang was not an expansion in space, but an expansion of space - so it is that the Big Crunch will not be a contraction in space, it will be a contraction of space.

As they tried to keep themselves distant from the Big Crunch, they would find it impossible to do - because the universe would actually be shrinking toward a point. There would be nowhere to go. The whole universe would shrink down past 1 light year, past 1 AU, past 1 km and on down. Even if he ship could survive the radiation and gravity, eventually the universe would shrink till it's smaller than the ship! There is no "outside" a Big Bang.
 
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  • #302
Ender's Game and Ringworld.
 
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  • #303
Hi Dave:

Thanks for your clarification. We are then talking about the same flaw. We were only focusing on two different aspects.

Regards,
Buzz
 
  • #304
Buzz Bloom said:
Thanks for your clarification. We are then talking about the same flaw. We were only focusing on two different aspects.
And reason this one bothers me so much is because it's a mistake only a complete noob makes. This misconception is so cosmologically basic it's a cliche.
 
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  • #305
Meh, they had this thing...
 
  • #306
Mark Baker said:
Nobody's mentioned Greg Bear's Forge of God or its sequel Anvil of Stars. Forge was a great story but a bit depressing though. Anvil was a different style, fast paced and chilling too.
I liked both books too, but rated them the reverse. Forge was also a thriller, and an excellent example of that genre. Along with his Quantico and Mariposa. Bear is one of the very best SF authors. Hell, he rates well with anybody in any genre IMO.
 
  • #307
My favorite novel is "A Canticle for Leibowitz," written by Walter M. Miller, Jr. Isaac Edward Leibowitz was a scientist who managed to survive the Flame Deluge that destroyed civilization. He dedicated his life to the recovery and preservation of pre-deluge knowledge - until his martyrdom by the hands of a book-burning mob. The story illuminates the ending of the Dark Age and the renaissance. The archived knowledge ignited the seeds for an uncertain future.

Just finished G. Bear's "Eon" which plays out in an O'Neill's column. Lovely.
 
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  • #308
I'm too lazy to read through the whole thread, but if they haven't been mentioned yet I would list 'The Lathe of Heaven' by Ursula K. LeGuin and the incredible 'The Stars My Destination' by Alfred Bester. 'Out of the Silent Planet' by C. S. Lewis is interesting if a bit philosophical.
 
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