What are some universities that have affiliation to national labs/Indu

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Discussion Overview

The discussion focuses on universities affiliated with national laboratories and industry, exploring the implications of such affiliations for graduate school applications and job prospects. Participants share examples of specific university-lab partnerships and discuss the nature of these relationships.

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  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants provide examples of universities with affiliations to national labs, such as USC with Lockheed-Martin, UC Berkeley with Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory, and Caltech with Jet Propulsion Laboratory.
  • Others mention additional affiliations, including Johns Hopkins University with JHUAPL, University of Colorado, Boulder with NIST, and University of Chicago with Argonne National Lab.
  • One participant expresses the belief that applying to graduate schools with lab or company affiliations may enhance job prospects, questioning if this assumption is valid.
  • Another participant challenges this assumption, suggesting that simply having an affiliation does not guarantee job opportunities, emphasizing the importance of personal connections and research experience.
  • Further discussion raises the idea that relationships between universities and labs may involve mutual benefits, where universities leverage lab resources and vice versa.
  • Concerns are expressed about the nature of these affiliations, questioning how tightly they are integrated and what opportunities they may provide for students.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the significance of university-lab affiliations for job prospects, with some believing it enhances opportunities while others argue that personal connections and research experience are more critical. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the impact of these affiliations.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the variability in the strength of relationships between universities and labs, noting that affiliations can range from loose connections to tight collaborations. There is uncertainty about how these relationships function in practice and their implications for students.

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What are some universities that have affiliation to national labs and or Industry?

For examples I'm thinking of how:

Lockheed-Martin and USC have come together to create the Experimental and Theoretical Adiabatic Quantum Computation

Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory and University of California, Berkeley

Jet Propulsion Laboratory and Caltech

etc...
 
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In terms of tight associations, there is The Johns Hopkins University and Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratories (JHUAPL).

Don't overlook looser affiliations. The Naval Academy in Annapolis, The Naval Research Lab, The University of Maryland and places like the Beltsville Agricultural Research Center, Goddard Spaceflight Center, and many more. People tend to know each other in Tech heavy areas and doors do have a tendency to revolve...
 
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NIST and University of Colorado, Boulder (they run JILA together)
 
You're missing:

Lawrence Livermore National Lab and University of California, Davis

and

University of Chicago and Argonne National Lab
 
Thanks for the replies!

My rational for asking is I am assuming that when/If I apply to graduate school places that have an affiliation with a lab/or company will enhance job prospects. Does this make sense?
 
sleepydreamer said:
Does this make sense?

No.

"Hey, about that opening. I don't think Bob is a good fit."
"But Bob went to a school that has an affiliation with a national lab."
"Well, that changes everything!"
 
sleepydreamer said:
Thanks for the replies!

My rational for asking is I am assuming that when/If I apply to graduate school places that have an affiliation with a lab/or company will enhance job prospects. Does this make sense?

Well it may enhance job prospects with that lab or company iff you do your graduate research at the lab or company.

If you're in engineering most of the most well-known schools have close relationships with many companies and labs.
 
Vanadium 50 said:
No.

"Hey, about that opening. I don't think Bob is a good fit."
"But Bob went to a school that has an affiliation with a national lab."
"Well, that changes everything!"

I don't think that's how it would work. It would be more like

Hey about that opening. We have loads of applications and many of them are good like Bob.
Bob went to a school that has an affiliation with a national lab so you remember Prof. George who gave his recs. We like George so his word carries weight and he works here often due to the labs affiliation.
Lets take Bob it is less risky.

It is easy to frame ludicrous scenarios like the bad fit.
 
Vanadium 50 said:
No.

"Hey, about that opening. I don't think Bob is a good fit."
"But Bob went to a school that has an affiliation with a national lab."
"Well, that changes everything!"

Sorry, what I meant was if you went to school that had an affiliation with X and then upon graduation wanted to get a job at that same X. Surely that would be meaningful?

I don't meant just name affiliation. I mean obviously you would have been building a relationship in some sense or working on projects with them. Wouldn't that be easier at a place that had a relationship with X?
 
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Perhaps, I don't understand the relationship between X university and Y Lab/Gov/Industry?

For example if one is a grad student at X. How tight is Y's relationship with X? What are the chances that one would be able to work/know/network with Y? Is it just a share resources thing or how do these relationships work?
 
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Typically, these labs leverage university talent and the universities leverage the practical talent available at the lab. In other words, it is a mutual back-scratching exercise for the professors and researchers.

If you happen to know a university professor who works with the lab, you might have a good foot in the door for a project they happen to be working on. But that would be the case no matter what. Most colleges have some sort of research projects going on. People tend to build tech heavy industry around large universities anyhow.

You'll still have to work your *** off to get that job and it won't pay much. Welcome to the real world...
 

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