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The polynomial x^6 + 10x^5 + 70x^4 + 288x^3 + 880x^2 + 1600x + 1792 is being analyzed for its six complex roots. Participants are expected to provide their methods and solutions for finding these roots. The discussion emphasizes the importance of showing work and reasoning behind the calculations. The repeated requests for solutions indicate a focus on collaborative problem-solving. Ultimately, the goal is to accurately determine the complex roots of the given polynomial.
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Hello.

Find the 6 complex roots:

x^6+10x^5+70x^4+288x^3+880x^2+1600x+1792

Regards.
 
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mente oscura said:
Hello.

Find the 6 complex roots:

x^6+10x^5+70x^4+288x^3+880x^2+1600x+1792

Regards.

My solution:

Let $f(x)=x^6+10x^5+70x^4+288x^3+880x^2+1600x+1792=(x^2+ax+b)(x^2+px+q)(x^2+mx+n)$ where each of the quadratic factor is greater than zero (since we're told $f(x)$ has all 6 complex roots) and $a,\,b,\,p,\,q,\,m,\,n \in N$.

[TABLE="class: grid, width: 850"]
[TR]
[TD]When $x=-1$, we get:[/TD]
[TD]When $x=1$, we have:[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]$845=(b-a+1)(q-p+1)(n-m+1)$

$5\cdot 13 \cdot 13 =(b-a+1)(q-p+1)(n-m+1)$[/TD]
[TD]$4641=(b+a+1)(p+q+1)(m+n+1)$

$3\cdot 7 \cdot 13 \cdot 17 =(b+a+1)(q+p+1)(n+m+1)$[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

If we let $b-a+1=5$, $q-p+1=13$ and $n-m+1=13$, we obtain:

$3\cdot 7 \cdot 13 \cdot 17 =(5+2a)(13+2p)(13+2m)$

Now, if we consider for one more case that is when $x=-2$, that gives

$672=(b-2a+4)(q-2p+4)(n-2m+4)$

$672=(8-a)(16-p)(16-m)$

$2^5\cdot 3 \cdot 7=(8-a)(16-p)(16-m)$

Now, if we focus solely on the conditions

[math]\color{yellow}\bbox[5px,green]{3\cdot 7 \cdot 13 \cdot 17 =(5+2a)(13+2p)(13+2m)}[/math] and [math]\color{green}\bbox[5px,yellow]{2^5\cdot 3 \cdot 7=(8-a)(16-p)(16-m)}[/math],

it's easy to check that $a=4,\,p=2,\,m=4$ satisfy the condition and that yields $b=8,\,p=14,\,m=16$ and hence

$x^2+ax+b=x^2+4x+8=0$ gives the complex roots of $-2 \pm 2i$.

$x^2+px+q=x^2+2x+14=0$ gives the complex roots of $-1 \pm \sqrt{13}i$.

$x^2+mx+n=x^2+4x+16=0$ gives the complex roots of $-2\pm2\sqrt{3}i$.
 
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anemone said:
My solution:

Let $f(x)=x^6+10x^5+70x^4+288x^3+880x^2+1600x+1792=(x^2+ax+b)(x^2+px+q)(x^2+mx+n)$ where each of the quadratic factor is greater than zero (since we're told $f(x)$ has all 6 complex roots) and $a,\,b,\,p,\,q,\,m,\,n \in N$.

[TABLE="class: grid, width: 850"]
[TR]
[TD]When $x=-1$, we get:[/TD]
[TD]When $x=1$, we have:[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]$845=(b-a+1)(q-p+1)(n-m+1)$

$5\cdot 13 \cdot 13 =(b-a+1)(q-p+1)(n-m+1)$[/TD]
[TD]$4641=(b+a+1)(p+q+1)(m+n+1)$

$3\cdot 7 \cdot 13 \cdot 17 =(b+a+1)(q+p+1)(n+m+1)$[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

If we let $b-a+1=5$, $q-p+1=13$ and $n-m+1=13$, we obtain:

$3\cdot 7 \cdot 13 \cdot 17 =(5+2a)(13+2p)(13+2m)$

Now, if we consider for one more case that is when $x=-2$, that gives

$672=(b-2a+4)(q-2p+4)(n-2m+4)$

$672=(8-a)(16-p)(16-m)$

$2^5\cdot 3 \cdot 7=(8-a)(16-p)(16-m)$

Now, if we focus solely on the conditions

[math]\color{yellow}\bbox[5px,green]{3\cdot 7 \cdot 13 \cdot 17 =(5+2a)(13+2p)(13+2m)}[/math] and [math]\color{green}\bbox[5px,yellow]{2^5\cdot 3 \cdot 7=(8-a)(16-p)(16-m)}[/math],

it's easy to check that $a=4,\,p=2,\,m=4$ satisfy the condition and that yields $b=8,\,p=14,\,m=16$ and hence

$x^2+ax+b=x^2+4x+8=0$ gives the complex roots of $-2 \pm 2i$.

$x^2+px+q=x^2+2x+14=0$ gives the complex roots of $-1 \pm \sqrt{13}i$.

$x^2+mx+n=x^2+4x+16=0$ gives the complex roots of $-2\pm2\sqrt{3}i$.

Well done!, anemone, the solutions are correct. I wait a little to my solution, if anyone else dares.

Regards.
 
Hello.

My solution:
For my "system":

http://mathhelpboards.com/number-theory-27/polynomials-roots-10020.html

P(x)=x^6+10x^5+70x^4+288x^3+880x^2+1600x+1792

Roots: x_1, \ x_2, \ x_3, \ x_4, \ x_5, \ x_6

1792=2^8*7
I will look for a polynomial, which has the same roots, less a unit.

P_{-1}(x)=x^6+16x^5+135x^4+688x^3+2279x^2+4560x+4641

4641=3*7*13*17P_{-2}(x)=x^6+22x^5+230x^4+1408x^3+5328x^2+11808x+12320

12320=2^5*7*11P_{-3}(x)=x^6+28x^5+355x^4+2568x^3+11167x^2+27724x+31117

31117=37*29^2

This one, it seems to be interesting.

I will look for a polynomial, which has the same roots, more a unit.

P_{+1}(x)=x^6+4x^5+35x^4+88x^3+351x^2+468x+845

845=5*13^2

This one, it seems to be interesting.

On the other hand, the complex roots, they are of the form:

x_{i_1}=p+qi, y x_{i_2}=p-qi.

They will generate the quadratic polynomial:

x^2+ax+b

Such that:

a=-2p, y b=p^2+q^2

Using the independent terms of:

P_{-3}(x) \ y \ P_{+1}(x):

A)

(p-3)^2+q^2=p^2+9-6p+q^2=29.(1)

(p+1)^2+q^2=p^2+1+2p+q^2=13.(2)

The difference is:

8-8p=16 \rightarrow{}p=-1

Substituting in (1) ó (2): q= \pm \sqrt{13}

Then, the polynomial "candidate" would be:

x^2+2x+14(*)

We divide, and observe that it turns out to be "exact". We can say that it has as roots:

x_1=-1+\sqrt{13}i \ y \ x_2=-1-\sqrt{13}i

We try to divide, for the second time for (*), and, We see that it does not turn out to be exact.

B)

(p-3)^2+q^2=p^2+9-6p+q^2=37

(p+1)^2+q^2=p^2+1+2p+q^2=13

The difference is:

8-8p=16 \rightarrow{}p=-2

Therefore, q=2 \sqrt{3}

Then, the polynomial "candidate" would be:

x^2+4x+16. Correct. Roots:

x_3=-2+2 \sqrt{3}i \ y \ x_4=-2-2 \sqrt{3}i

C)

(p-3)^2+q^2=p^2+9-6p+q^2=29

(p+1)^2+q^2=p^2+1+2p+q^2=5

The difference is:

8-8p=16 \rightarrow{}p=-2

Therefore, q=2

Then, the polynomial "candidate" would be:

x^2+4x+8. Correct. Roots:

r_5=-2+2 i \ y \ r_6=-2-2 i

Conclusion:

P(x)=x^6+10x^5+70x^4+288x^3+880x^2+1600x+1792=

=(x^2+2x+14)(x^2+4x+16)(x^2+4x+8)

Regards.
 
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