What are the best lightweight materials for small wheel rims?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion focuses on identifying lightweight materials suitable for small wheel rims, specifically for a motor scooter application. Participants explore various material options, their properties, and manufacturing considerations, including CNC machining capabilities.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about lightweight alternatives to aluminum and magnesium for small wheel rims, mentioning titanium and carbon steel as potential options.
  • Another participant suggests that balancing strength, weight, and cost is crucial, indicating that the strongest, lightest, and cheapest material may not be easily achievable.
  • A further contribution emphasizes the importance of considering peak stress and cyclical stress levels when selecting materials, recommending a focus on yield stress, toughness, fatigue strength, and strength-to-weight ratio.
  • One participant mentions 'mag wheels' as a suitable option for the application and provides links to resources for further information on materials used in automotive and aerospace contexts.
  • Another participant proposes nylon as a potential material for the rims, noting its difficulty in machining.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the best material options, with no consensus on a single solution. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the optimal balance of strength, weight, and cost.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the need to consider various mechanical properties and manufacturing challenges, indicating that the choice of material may depend on specific application requirements and constraints.

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I am looking to make some small wheel rims (about 6-8 inches). I know there are currently rims made of aluminum and magnesium. I know steel would work, but what would be some light weight alternatives. I know of titanium, carbon steel maybe?, steel. I am looking for the strongest, lightest, and cheapest material that can be cnc machined.

This is for a motor scooter, 62 cc's capable of 50+mph utilizing 10 inch pneumatic tires. It has two ball bearings that fit on the end and the axle is magnesium i think.
 
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Strongest, lightest and cheapest is a tall order, you need to weigh up what characteristics will give you the biggest benefits.
 
One should look at the peak stress and nominal cyclical stress level, then pick a material with an appropriate yield stress, toughness, fatigue strength and strength-to-weight ratio (one can take advantage of high strength to weight ratio and make a thicker section which reduces stress).

Then consider cost per unit mass of the material.

One good source of general information is the ASM International's journal, "Advanced Materials & Processes", which is often available in good technical libraries. There is usually specific volumes devoted to materials in both automotive and aerospace applications.

For your application, 'mag wheels' would seem appropriate. However consider:

http://www.sromagazine.com/paris/dictionary/sro-dicm.htm#MagWheel

http://www.sromagazine.com/paris/dictionary/sro-dica.htm#AlloyWheel

and

http://groups.msn.com/OldsmobileLovers-2/tipsandtrix.msnw?action=get_message&mview=1&ID_Message=1332
 
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nylon scooter rims

oldunion said:
I am looking to make some small wheel rims (about 6-8 inches). I know there are currently rims made of aluminum and magnesium. I know steel would work, but what would be some light weight alternatives. I know of titanium, carbon steel maybe?, steel. I am looking for the strongest, lightest, and cheapest material that can be cnc machined.

This is for a motor scooter, 62 cc's capable of 50+mph utilizing 10 inch pneumatic tires. It has two ball bearings that fit on the end and the axle is magnesium i think.


The wheels could be manufactured from a certain grade of nylon. This material is not very easy to machine!
 

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