What are the chemical names of these two compounds?

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The discussion centers around identifying the chemical names of two unspecified compounds based on provided structures. Participants explore potential names and structural characteristics, with a focus on chemical nomenclature and possible biochemical relevance.

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  • One participant requests the proper chemical names for two compounds.
  • Another participant suggests using ChemSketch or chemspider.com as resources for identifying chemical names.
  • A participant proposes that the second structure resembles the hydrazone of 2-hydroxy-1-napthalenecarboxaldehyde, noting it could be referred to as 2-hydroxy-1-napthalenecarboxaldehyde hydrazone.
  • A later reply agrees with the hydrazone identification but expresses uncertainty about the similarity of the structures.
  • One participant speculates that the compounds may relate to a biomolecular pathway involving gamma secretase, suggesting that the second compound might result from hydrolysis of the first compound.
  • Another participant confirms that chemspider.com identifies the second structure as 2-hydroxy-1-napthalenecarboxaldehyde hydrazone, also noting its alternative name, 1-hydrazonomethyl-2-naphthol, and mentions the isomer distinction (E or Z) that could affect the name.

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Participants express various hypotheses regarding the chemical names and structures, with some agreement on the identification of the second compound but no consensus on the first compound or the overall relationship between the two compounds.

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There are unresolved aspects regarding the specific isomer of the second compound and the exact nature of the first compound, as well as the implications of the proposed biochemical pathway.

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Could someone give the proper chemical names of the attached two compounds.
Lots of thanks in advance.
 

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Have you tried ChemSketch? Or chemspider.com?
 
The second structure looks like the hydrazone of 2-hydroxy-1-napthalenecarboxaldehyde or 2-hydroxy-1-napthalenecarboxaldehyde hydrazone
 
chemisttree said:
The second structure looks like the hydrazone of 2-hydroxy-1-napthalenecarboxaldehyde or 2-hydroxy-1-napthalenecarboxaldehyde hydrazone
Maybe a little...? I don't see very much similarity...

hivesaeed4 said:
Could someone give the proper chemical names of the attached two compounds.
Lots of thanks in advance.
Based on the picture, I'm thinking that these are part of a biomolecular pathway involving gamma secretase, right? On a quick inspection (it's been a while since I did any biochem), it looks like your second compound might be the result of hydrolysis occurring in the first compound between the right-most nitrogen in the picture and the carbon to the right of it.

You may want to look at various products, substrates, etc. of gamma secretase reactions; it is likely that your answer lies there.
 
For the second structure, chemspider.com loads the correct structure with the input name of 2-hydroxy-1-napthalenecarboxaldehyde hydrazone but it is also known as 1-hydrazonomethyl-2-naphthol. Your picture doesn't indicate which isomer, E or Z, it should be but if you were to include that, the name would also be 1-[(EorZ)-hydrazonomethyl]-2-naphthol.
 
Lots of thanks.
 

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