What Are the Core Postulates of Einstein's Special Theory of Relativity?

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The discussion revolves around the core postulates of Einstein's Special Theory of Relativity, specifically focusing on the principle of relativity and the constancy of the speed of light. Participants are exploring the implications of these postulates and how they can be illustrated through examples.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are attempting to clarify the meaning of "the laws of physics" in the context of different inertial frames. Questions are raised about how to illustrate these concepts with examples, particularly regarding the independence of physical laws across frames and the consistency of experimental results.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights and examples related to the postulates. Some guidance has been offered regarding the interpretation of the principles, but there is no explicit consensus on the examples or explanations being discussed.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of the postulates and their implications, with some uncertainty about how to effectively communicate these ideas through examples. There is an acknowledgment of the need for uniform translation between frames when discussing experimental results.

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Homework Statement


State two postulate that underlie the Special Theory of Relativity

The Attempt at a Solution


From the notes I have from the lecturer. It says:
The principle of relativity: The laws of physics must be the same in all inertial reference frame.
The constancy of the speed of light: the speed of light must be the same in all inertial frames, regardless of the velocity of the observer or the velocity of the source emitting the light.

My question is:
For the first statement, how do I use an example to explain this? Because I'm not too sure about "the law of physics" really means.
 
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LowlyPion said:

Can I say the physics law in any inertial frame is independent? So when I do an experiment (say measuring the mass of a sphere) on a inertial frame, will be the same as what I do in another inertial frame. Is that correct?
 
rchenkl said:
Can I say the physics law in any inertial frame is independent? So when I do an experiment (say measuring the mass of a sphere) on a inertial frame, will be the same as what I do in another inertial frame. Is that correct?

You have listed the two principles in your original post. If you are talking about independent of frame, then I suppose you can say your "laws" will be valid in one coordinate representation or another.

The other important postulate is the invariance of the speed of c.
 
LowlyPion said:
You have listed the two principles in your original post. If you are talking about independent of frame, then I suppose you can say your "laws" will be valid in one coordinate representation or another.

The other important postulate is the invariance of the speed of c.

So for example, one person is doing an experiment and obtained a result at stationary. Another person is traveling at a speed and do the same experiment. They will obtain the same results regardless the frame they are in. Is that a correct derivation from the first postulate?
 
rchenkl said:
So for example, one person is doing an experiment and obtained a result at stationary. Another person is traveling at a speed and do the same experiment. They will obtain the same results regardless the frame they are in. Is that a correct derivation from the first postulate?

I think as long as there is uniform translation between the frames.
 

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