What Are the Dimensions of Hilbert Space Elements in Quantum Mechanics?

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The discussion revolves around the dimensions of elements in Hilbert space within the context of quantum mechanics, specifically focusing on the dimensional analysis of state vectors and wavefunctions. Participants explore the implications of dimensionality in the mathematical formulation of quantum mechanics, including the roles of rigged Hilbert spaces and inner products.

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  • One participant proposes that elements of Hilbert space, such as the state vector ##|\Psi\rangle##, should be considered dimensionless, leading to confusion about the dimensions of wavefunctions and inner products.
  • Another participant questions whether the dual vector space has inverse dimensions, suggesting that both ##<\Psi|## and ##|\Psi>## are dimensionless.
  • There is a discussion about the dimensions of the wavefunction ##\psi(x)##, with some suggesting it should have dimensions of ##L^{-1/2}## due to the properties of the inner product.
  • Participants mention that the inner product ##=\delta(x-x')## has dimensions of ##L^{-1}##, indicating a relationship between dimensions and the delta function.
  • One participant refers to literature on rigged Hilbert spaces for further insight, while another expresses a preference for discussion over reading vague literature.
  • There is a consensus among some participants that the inner product ##<\Psi|\Psi>## is dimensionless and normalized to 1, while the inner products involving position states have dimensions related to length.

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Participants generally agree that both ##<\Psi|## and ##|\Psi>## are dimensionless, and that the inner product ##<\Psi|\Psi>## is also dimensionless. However, there is disagreement regarding the dimensions of wavefunctions and the implications of dimensional analysis in the context of rigged Hilbert spaces.

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The discussion includes unresolved aspects of dimensional analysis, particularly concerning the distribution of dimensions in quantum states and wavefunctions, as well as the implications of rigged Hilbert spaces on these dimensions.

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Hi Fellas! My first post after a long hiatus from forums. Feeling nostalgia (this is the place where it all began, my fuel for quantum fascination so to speak).

I am revisiting the mathematical formulation of quantum mechanics with the dimensional (MLT) perspective. I want to understand what are the dimensions of Hilbert space elements, within the context of quantum mechanics. I was thinking of the elements as dimensionless but am stuck in the logical reasoning.

Consider an element of (rigged?) Hilbert space ##\mathcal{H}## with operators having continuous spectral decomposition, in the sense the insertion or completeness is represented by
$$\hat{\mathbb{1}} = \int dx|x\rangle\langle x|,$$
were ##x## is continuous and all those usual gory specifications.
I am interested in knowing the role of high school dimensional analysis played here. For that I consider a unit norm state vector ##|\Psi\rangle##. According to the premise I started with, ##|\Psi\rangle## should have the dimensions of ##[M^0L^0T^0I^0\Theta^0J^0]## (symbols have usual meaning).

Now I start the quantum gymnastics
\begin{align}
|\Psi\rangle &= \hat{\mathbb{1}}|\Psi\rangle \\
&= \int dx|x\rangle\langle x| \cdot |\Psi\rangle\\
&= \int dx \psi(x)|x\rangle

\end{align}
I see no issue in first equation because ##|\Psi\rangle## and ##\hat{\mathbb{1}}## are dimensionless.
In second equation, I don't know how to distribute dimensions. My common sense senses that since ##\psi(x)## is to be interpreted as "wavefunction" its units need be ##L^{-0.5}##. But then the inner product looses its value, in the sense that ##\psi(x) = \langle x|\Psi\rangle## where ##|\Psi\rangle## and the element of dual vector space ##\langle x|## are supposed to be dimensionless. How do I reconcile?

Maybe it is nothing, and maybe I need jolting back to undergrad, a little lesson in dimensional analysis should be helpful!
Thanks!

H
 
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Your argument suggests that ##|\Psi>## has no physical dimension.
&lt;\Psi|\Psi&gt;=1 when normalized. Do you have an uneasiness with it ?
 
Are you suggesting dual vector space has inverse dimensions?
 
No, both ##<\Psi|## and ##|\Psi>## have no dimension.
 
And what about ##\psi(x)##?
 
##L^{-1/2}## as you said because <x| has dimension ##L^{-1/2}##.
\int |x&gt;dx&lt;x|=1 corresponding
L^{-1/2} L^1 L^{-1/2} =L^0=1

[EDIT]
Above is 1 D case. ##|\psi|^2## is probability density per unit length which has dimension ##L^{-1}##.
For 3D case
\int\int\int |\psi|^2 dxdydz=1 and ##|\psi|^2## is probability density per unit volume which has dimension ##L^{-3}##.
 
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So you are suggesting ##\langle x|##, and element of the dual of same hilbert space ##\mathcal{H}## is now equipped with some dimension?

For clarity ##|\Psi\rangle, |x\rangle \in\mathcal{H}##.
 
Or maybe, something like
$$\int_{x}^{x+dx} dx|x\rangle\in \mathcal{H}.$$

But yeah, no.
 
<x| ,|x> have dimension ##L^{-1/2}##
<p|, |p> have dimension ## [ML/T] ^ {-1/2}## or so.
They do not belong to ordinally Hilbert Space as you said in OP.

For confirmation
&lt;x|x&#039;&gt;=\delta(x-x&#039;)
has dimension ##L^{-1}## because
\int \delta(x-x&#039;)dx&#039;=1
corresponding
L^{-1}L^1=L^0
 
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Yeah so what is it?
About the rigged Hilbert space that I need more understanding on?
I don't see any reconciliation, yet!
 
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Well there is a particular reason for me to post here. Reading vague literature is not my cup of tea, anymore ...
 
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Both ##<\Psi|## and ##|\Psi>## have no dimension.
Inner product ##<\Psi|\Psi>## has no dimension. Value 1 when normalized.

Both ##<x|## and ##|x>## have dimension ##L^{-1/2}##.
Inner product ##<x|x'>=\delta(x-x')## has dimension ##L^{-1}##.

##\psi(x)=<x|\Psi>##
##\psi^*(x)=<\Psi|x>## so from the above
Both ##\psi(x)## and ##\psi^*(x)## have dimension ##L^{-1/2}##.
Component product ##\psi(x)\psi^*(x)## has dimension ##L^{-1}##.
Inner product ## \int \psi(x)\psi^*(x) dx## has no dimension, Value 1 when normalized.

Do you find any problems on the above ?
 
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Moderator's note: Thread level changed to "I". This is not "B" level material.
 
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anuttarasammyak said:
Do you find any problems on the above ?
NO
 
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