What Are the Eigenvalue Properties of Hermitian Matrices in Quantum Mechanics?

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The discussion revolves around the eigenvalue properties of Hermitian matrices in the context of quantum mechanics, specifically examining the implications of the equation \(M^iM^j + M^jM^i = 2 \delta^{ij}I\) for matrices \(M^1, M^2, M^3, M^4\). Participants explore how to demonstrate that the eigenvalues of these matrices are \(\pm 1\), engaging with concepts from linear algebra and quantum mechanics.

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  • One participant suggests starting with a specific 2x2 Hermitian matrix to evaluate the left-hand side of the equation.
  • Another participant proposes setting \(i=j\) to derive \((M^i)^2 = I\) and questions the values of \(\lambda\) that satisfy the resulting equations.
  • There is confusion about the meaning of "going to the eigenbasis of \(M\)", with participants expressing uncertainty about how to determine eigenvalues and eigenvectors without knowing the value of \(M\).
  • One participant calculates the eigenvalues to be 1 based on the identity matrix but questions the origin of the \(\pm 1\) eigenvalues.
  • Another participant clarifies that the equation \(v = \lambda^2 v\) implies \(\lambda^2 = 1\), leading to the conclusion that \(\lambda\) could be \(\pm 1\).

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Participants express differing interpretations of the steps needed to derive the eigenvalues, with some agreeing on the mathematical implications of \(\lambda^2 = 1\) while others remain uncertain about the initial assumptions and definitions involved.

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There are unresolved questions regarding the interpretation of the eigenbasis and the implications of the equation for determining eigenvalues. The discussion reflects varying levels of understanding and approaches to the problem.

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Hi Folks,

I am looking at Shankars Principles of Quantum Mechanics.

For Hermitian Matrices M^1, M^2, M^3, M^4 that obey

M^iM^j+M^jM^i=2 \delta^{ij}I, i,j=1...4

Show that eigenvalues of M^i are \pm1
Hint: Go to eigenbasis of M^i and use equation i=j. Not sure how to start this?
Should I consider a 2*2 Hermitian Matrix such as \begin{bmatrix}1 & -i\\ -i& 1\end{bmatrix} and evaluate the LHS?
 
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bugatti79 said:
Hi Folks,

I am looking at Shankars Principles of Quantum Mechanics.

For Hermitian Matrices M^1, M^2, M^3, M^4 that obey

M^iM^j+M^jM^i=2 \delta^{ij}I, i,j=1...4

Show that eigenvalues of M^i are \pm1
Hint: Go to eigenbasis of M^i and use equation i=j. Not sure how to start this?
Should I consider a 2*2 Hermitian Matrix such as \begin{bmatrix}1 & -i\\ -i& 1\end{bmatrix} and evaluate the LHS?

Hi bugatti!

Let's set $i=j$, then we get:
$$(M^i)^2 = I$$

If we have $M^i v = \lambda v$ then it follows that $(M^i)^2 v = \lambda^2 v$ and also that $(M^i)^2 v= I v = v$.
For which values of $\lambda$ would these equations be satisfied?
 
I like Serena said:
Hi bugatti!

Let's set $i=j$, then we get:
$$(M^i)^2 = I$$

If we have $M^i v = \lambda v$ then it follows that $(M^i)^2 v = \lambda^2 v$ and also that $(M^i)^2 v= I v = v$.
For which values of $\lambda$ would these equations be satisfied?
We would then have $$I v= \lambda^2 v$$
How do we work out the eigenvalues if we don't know the value of M..?
To me, the eigenbasis are determined by first finding the eigenvalues and eigenvectors. Not sure what he means by " going to the eigenbasis of M"!
 
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bugatti79 said:
We would then have $$I v= \lambda^2 v$$
How do we work out the eigenvalues if we don't know the value of M..?
To me, the eigenbasis are determined by first finding the eigenvalues and eigenvectors. Not sure what he means by " going to the eigenbasis of M"!

I don't understand either what is intended with: "going to the eigenbasis of M".
However, picking $i=j$ yields the eigenvalues directly using $I v= \lambda^2 v$.
 
I like Serena said:
I don't understand either what is intended with: "going to the eigenbasis of M".
However, picking $i=j$ yields the eigenvalues directly using $I v= \lambda^2 v$.

But i calculate \lambda to be the square root of the identity matrix which is the identity matrix to which its eigenvalues \lambda_1=\lambda_2=1 from the characteristic polynomial x^2-2x+1.
i don't see where \pm 1 comes from
 
bugatti79 said:
But i calculate \lambda to be the square root of the identity matrix which is the identity matrix to which its eigenvalues \lambda_1=\lambda_2=1 from the characteristic polynomial x^2-2x+1.
i don't see where \pm 1 comes from

Those are the eigenvalues of the identity matrix, but that's not what that equation is for.
What we have, is:
$$v = \lambda^2 v$$
where $v$ is a non-zero vector (an eigenvector of $M^i$).
This can only be true if $\lambda^2 = 1$.
What do you get if you solve this?Alternatively, we can interpret your results, where we still need to apply a square root somehow, which you've left out.
So yes, the identity matrix has only eigenvalue 1.
But since we had $\lambda^2$ in the equation instead of $\lambda$, that means that $\lambda^2 = 1$.
 
Ok, I see it.
Thank you!
 

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