What are the eigenvalues and eigenvectors of the given matrix transformation?

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The discussion revolves around finding the eigenvalues and eigenvectors of a given matrix transformation represented by a differential equation. The matrix in question is a 2x2 matrix, and participants are attempting to identify the correct eigenvectors associated with the eigenvalues.

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  • Participants discuss their attempts to find eigenvectors, with some expressing uncertainty about their calculations. Questions arise regarding the correctness of the eigenvectors found and the process used to derive them.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the eigenvectors, with some participants questioning the validity of the previously stated vectors. A few participants have provided corrections and alternative vectors, while others are seeking clarification on the correct values. The discussion reflects a mix of interpretations and attempts to reconcile differing results.

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Some participants note that they have omitted signs or made errors in their calculations, leading to confusion about the correct eigenvectors. There is also an indication that the original poster is inclined to trust an external tool for verification, which raises questions about the reliability of their own work.

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<br /> \frac{d\vec{Y}}{dt}<br /> =<br /> \begin{bmatrix}<br /> 2 &amp; 4 \\<br /> 3 &amp; 6<br /> \end{bmatrix}<br /> \vec{Y}
Find the eigenvalues and eigenvectors

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I found the eigenvectors to be
<br /> \vec{v_1} = <br /> \begin{bmatrix} <br /> 2 \\ <br /> 1 <br /> \end{bmatrix}<br /> ,<br /> \vec{v_2} = <br /> \begin{bmatrix}<br /> 2 \\<br /> -3 <br /> \end{bmatrix}<br />

I found a widget on Wolfram Alpha that says the second eigenvector should be:
<br /> \begin{bmatrix}<br /> 2 \\<br /> 3<br /> \end{bmatrix}<br />

I am more inclined to believe wolfram alpha is correct, but can someone show me why?
 
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How are we to determine whether, and if so how, you have made an error if you don't post your working?
 
It was mostly by looking at the matrix and trying to make them the same and now that you say that when I do the algebra on it to post it, I see what I did wrong. I just tried to look at 3 and -2 to find the solution when I should have said 3x-2y=0 and 3x=2y then the vector becomes clear.
 
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It was mostly by looking at the matrix and trying to make them the same and now that you say that when I do the algebra on it to post it, I see what I did wrong. I just tried to look at 3 and -2 to find the solution when I should have said 3x-2y=0 and 3x=2y then the vector becomes clear.

Neither of your ##v_1## or ##v_2## are eigenvectors. If ##A## is your matrix we have ##Av_1 = (8,12)^T##, which cannot be a multiple of ##v_1##: the first component of ##v_1## is larger than the second component, while the opposite is true for ##Av_1##. Similarly, ##v_2## cannot be an eigenvector of ##A## because the components of ##v_2## have opposite signs, while those of ##Av_2## have the same sign.

Also: you did not show the eigenvalues.
 
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Eigens are 0,8. The problem was v2 I ommited a negative sign in the first vector on accident.
 
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Eigens are 0,8. The problem was v2 I ommited a negative sign in the first vector on accident.

I do not understand what you are trying to say. What is the correct ##v_1##? What is the correct ##v_2##? Instead of trying to describe these in words, just show the actual numerical entries.
 
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<br /> \vec{v_1}=<br /> \begin{bmatrix}<br /> -2 \\<br /> 1<br /> \end{bmatrix}<br /> ,<br /> \vec{v_2}=<br /> \begin{bmatrix}<br /> 2 \\<br /> 3<br /> \end{bmatrix}<br />

Sory for putting so little work into this, I've got the answer and moved onto the next problem at this point.
 

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