What Are the Limitations of Gauss's Law When Analyzing a Line Charge in Air?

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The discussion revolves around the application of Gauss's Law to a line charge situated along the z-axis in air, specifically analyzing the electric field at a point away from the wire. The charge density is uniform, but the length of the wire is finite, raising questions about the applicability of Gauss's Law in this context.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the implications of using Gauss's Law for a finite wire versus an infinite wire, questioning why the electric field is uniform for an infinite wire but not for a finite one. There is an attempt to derive the electric field using Gauss's Law, but some participants suggest integrating the electric field from each segment of the wire instead.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing insights into the limitations of Gauss's Law for finite-length wires. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need to consider the non-uniform electric field and the importance of accounting for side flux in the Gaussian surface.

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Participants are grappling with the assumptions related to the uniformity of the electric field and the implications of the wire's finite length on the application of Gauss's Law. There is a recognition that the problem setup may influence the validity of the approaches discussed.

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Homework Statement



A line charge exists in air along the z-axis between z=0 and z=5 cm. It has a uniform charge density given by:
ρl = 4(uC/m)
Determine E at (0,10 cm, 0)

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I am using gauss law so I draw a cylinder around the wire

Qenc = ρl * L = ∫ D.ds , Gauss law

Qenc = ρl * L , where L is the length of the wire

ds = r*dθ*dz , where r is the distance from the wire to the point, 10 cm

ρl * L = D ∫ 0 to L ∫ 0 to 2pi r*dθ*dz

D = ρl/2pi*r = E*ε

E = ρl / 2pi*ε*r

= (4*10^-6)/(2pi*0.1*8.854*10^-12)
= 7.19*10^5
 
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Gauss method works only if the electric field at any point on the enclosing surface is uniform, which is not in this problem because the wire is of finite length. Use the integration method to integrate the electric field from each line segment along the wire.
 
blue_leaf77 said:
Gauss method works only if the electric field at any point on the enclosing surface is uniform, which is not in this problem because the wire is of finite length. Use the integration method to integrate the electric field from each line segment along the wire.

I'm a bit confused. Why is the electric field uniform for an infinite wire and non uniform for a finite length wire ?
 
For the case of finite wire, imagine two points, one located near the left end of the wire, the other located at the center, both point lie on your cylindrical surface The electric field in the first point will tend to be directed to the left or right depending on the charge of the wire. For the point in the middle, it will feel the same amount of electric field from the left and right parts of the wire and hence will be directed perpendicularly to the wire.
For the case of infinite wire, no matter where you translate your observation point you will always end up in the same configuration as the wire has no end on both sides.
 
Another view: your Gaussian cylinder has flux coming out the sides in addition to the length. Gauss's theorem still holds but you can't ignore the side flux.
 

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