What are the possible solutions for the TISE in the infinite square well model?

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The discussion revolves around solving the Time-Independent Schrödinger Equation (TISE) for the infinite square well model, where the potential is zero within a certain range and infinite outside of it. The original poster is exploring the implications of different energy states on the wavefunction solutions.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to categorize the solutions based on energy levels (E > 0, E = 0, E < 0) and expresses confusion regarding the validity of these cases. Some participants question the reasoning behind excluding certain energy states, particularly E = 0 and E < 0.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging in clarifying the conditions under which the wavefunction can exist and are examining the implications of boundary conditions on the solutions. There is a focus on understanding why only certain energy states yield non-trivial solutions.

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There is a discussion about the minimum potential energy and its relationship to the energy of the particle, with some participants questioning the assumptions made regarding energy levels in the context of the infinite square well model.

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Homework Statement



As part of my homework, I am solving the TISE for the infinite square well model.

The potential is zero for |x| =< a and infinite otherwise.

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The Attempt at a Solution



For |x| >= a, the wavefunction is zero.

For |x| =< a, there are three possible cases:
1. E > 0
2. E = 0
3. E < 0

for the following TISE:

[tex]\frac{d^{2}u}{dx^{2}} + \frac{2mE}{hcross^{2}}u = 0[/tex].

For E > 0, the solutions are sinusoidal.

For E = 0, u = A + Bx.

For E < 0, the solutions are exponentials.

The problem is the only solution is sinusoidal. What have I done wrong?
 
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Why is that a problem?
 
failexam said:
For |x| >= a, the wavefunction is zero.

For |x| =< a, there are three possible cases:
1. E > 0
2. E = 0
3. E < 0

The energy of the particle can never be lower than the minimum potential energy. In other words, E+V_min > 0 for every stationary state. That's why you can exclude cases 2 and 3.
 
ideasrule said:
The energy of the particle can never be lower than the minimum potential energy. In other words, E+V_min > 0 for every stationary state.

Or did you mean E - V_min > 0 for every stationary state?

I am wondering why the energy of the particle can never be lower than the minimum potential energy.

Please help me out!
 
Try satisfying the boundary conditions in the second and third cases. You'll find you can't except when the wave function vanishes. Only the first case allows non-trivial solutions.
 

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