What are the Pros and Cons of Weed Out Courses?

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The discussion centers on the concept of "weed out" courses, which are intentionally designed to be challenging to filter out less prepared students in fields like physics. Participants share experiences of these courses, noting that while they can help identify students who may struggle later, they often lead to high dropout rates and dissatisfaction. Some argue that such courses are necessary to maintain academic standards, while others question their justification and the impact on student morale. The conversation also highlights that the term "weed out" is primarily used by students, and many professors do not design courses with the intent to fail students. Ultimately, the effectiveness and fairness of these courses remain contentious topics in academic discussions.
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Ok, let me give more details then.
The 600 pages comprises of:
Vibrations and Waves, by French, the entire book; and Griffiths EM book, the first nine chapters of the 3rd edition. I actually think that comes out closer to 700 pages. It is typical to cover only 7 or 8 chapters out of griffiths in a semester course, or so I've heard. So what we did was roughly twice a normal workload. On top of that labs evey week, 3hrs in the lab and 15 page reports is nothing to smile at. Problem sets, about 5 to 15 problems, average half an hour per problem that gives more than 3 hours a week on average. Plus programming, althought there wasn't too much.

I know this is not the only intensive course in the world, there is the Harvard math 55 courses:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Math_55
which is more intensive yet, but those types of courses are usually not required for a major. This course I did is required for a major.
 
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Pythagorean said:
5-6 pages multiplied by four classes = 20-24 pages a day

Yes, but that's a statement about how many classes of equivalent difficulty one can take, not a statement about how difficult one's most difficult class is.
 
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Pythagorean said:
5-6 pages multiplied by four classes = 20-24 pages a day
+ homework + work + lectures + family + vehicle/home maintenance

yes. I don't have a social life outside of my family.

Full-time students are expected to put in the equivalent of a full-time job toward time spend in classes and doing homework or studying, and that's assuming you're only taking 12 credits a term. If you start taking more credits, it's like picking up another part-time job (a lot of science majors carry 18 credits a semester). For each hour of lecture, you should expect to put in 2-3 hours of work at home for that course. If you have a lot of obligations outside of school, you may want to consider attending part-time instead of full-time.
 

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