What Are the Steps to Solve These Circle and Slope Math Problems?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around solving specific math problems related to circles and slopes, including finding equations of lines and circles, as well as converting between standard and general forms. The scope includes mathematical reasoning and homework-related queries.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant asks how to find the equation of a line with an undefined slope that passes through the point (3, -4), suggesting the answer is y = -4.
  • Another participant confirms the standard equation of a circle with radius 4 and center (1, 2) is correct but seeks clarification on the general form.
  • A third participant notes that to find the center, radius, and intercepts of a given circle equation, one must complete the square and convert it to general form.
  • Some participants clarify that an undefined slope is not the same as a slope of zero, indicating a misunderstanding in the initial response.
  • There is a suggestion to perform multiplication to convert the standard form of the circle equation into general form.
  • One participant expresses confusion about the definitions of standard and general forms, indicating a need for further clarification.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the correct standard form of the circle equation, but there is confusion regarding the general form and the concept of undefined slope versus zero slope. Multiple competing views on these concepts remain unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Some participants mention the need to complete the square for certain equations, but the specific steps and assumptions involved in this process are not fully detailed. There is also ambiguity in the definitions of standard and general forms as discussed by participants.

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1.) How do you answer this?
Find the equation of the line that has a slope undefined and passes through the points (3, -4).

I got y=-4
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2.) Write the standard and general equations of the circle with radius 4 and center (1,2).
I got STANDARD: (x-1)^2 + (y-2)^2=16
I don't understand the whole GENERAL FORM!
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3.) Then I have this: Give the center, radius, and all intercepts of the circle: x^2+y^2+4x-2y-20=0.
I am stuck on this one completely.

Thank you for all help!
 
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1. What is the point-slope equation?

2. Correct.

3. Complete the square, put it in general form, which C(h,k) is the center.

General form just basically tells us where the center is, and the length of the radius. If I were to ask you the difference between y=x-1 & y=x+1. You would say the first is shifted a unit down, while the 2nd is shifted up a unit. Same thing for the circle. For example: (x-1)^2+(y-2)^2=4, shifted to the right 1 & up 2 with radius 2.
 
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#1: You want a slope undefined. Your answer is a slope of zero. They are not the same.

#2: You obtained the correct equation in standard form, but you want the final answer in GENERAL form. Perform the steps (meaning, multiply!)
 
symbolipoint said:
#1: You want a slope undefined. Your answer is a slope of zero. They are not the same.

#2: You obtained the correct equation in standard form, but you want the final answer in GENERAL form. Perform the steps (meaning, multiply!)
Crap! Sorry, I'm a dummy. General form is what they have in question 3. Standard form is C(h,k) form, hehe.
 

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