What are the top 3 hardest college majors for average students?

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The discussion revolves around the perceived difficulty of various college majors, specifically focusing on what some participants consider the top three hardest majors for average students. The conversation includes a range of fields such as Pure Math, Philosophy, Physics, Engineering, and English, and explores subjective experiences and opinions regarding academic challenges.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that Pure Math, Philosophy, and Physics are among the hardest majors for average students.
  • Others argue that Philosophy is not difficult, suggesting it is open-ended and less rigorous compared to other fields.
  • There is a claim that English majors face significant challenges due to extensive reading and writing requirements.
  • Some participants express surprise that Engineering is not included in the list, arguing it is less abstract than the mentioned majors.
  • A participant suggests that the perceived difficulty of a major may depend on individual biases and interests, noting that students often find their own field the most challenging.
  • Another viewpoint emphasizes that comparing majors is pointless, as difficulty is subjective and varies based on personal interest and effort.
  • Some participants mention that workload and grading standards in technical fields like engineering and science are often higher than in humanities.
  • There is a humorous exchange regarding the perceived ease of Philosophy, with some participants claiming that Philosophy majors can achieve high grades with minimal effort.
  • One participant reflects on their personal experience, stating that their most difficult tasks were those they had little interest in, rather than the subject matter itself.

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Participants express multiple competing views regarding which majors are the hardest, with no consensus reached. The discussion remains unresolved as different perspectives on difficulty and personal experience are presented.

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Participants acknowledge that definitions of "hard" are subjective and that comparisons between majors may not be meaningful. The discussion highlights the variability in individual experiences and the influence of personal interest on perceived difficulty.

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1. Pure Math
2. Philosophy
3. Physics

This list I believe is valid for someone that is average basically in math, science and critical thinking and doesn't particularly excel in anything as of starting the major. What do you think?
 
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xdrgnh said:
2. Philosophy

No. Maybe if you're counting from the bottom.
 


You trying to say Philosophy is easy?
 


xdrgnh said:
2. Philosophy

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Pre-meds have a tough life too you know. I also would add English majors because they are expected to write out quality essays (pages long) in a week and read tons of boring books that no one cares in the real world.
 


I'm not trying to say that they don't... English could be up there but not in the top 3. What makes Philosophy very hard is that it's very open ended.
 


How is Engineering not on this list?!
 


Because it's less abstract then those 3.
 


xdrgnh said:
Because it's less abstract then those 3.

What?? What is your major? I am curious
 


Physics, I want to go into Theoretical physics. Engineering is a applied subject.
 
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xdrgnh said:
I'm not trying to say that they don't... English could be up there but not in the top 3. What makes Philosophy very hard is that it's very open ended.

Actually that's what makes it very easy.
 
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Pengwuino said:
Actually that's what makes it very easy.

Go tell a Philosophy major that.
 
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Listing these is rather pointless. It's going to be different for every individual. People in field A probably think that field A is the most difficult, lacking experience in field B. People in field B, likely feel that field B is the most difficult. I would suspect that the "most difficult major" for anyone person would be in whatever subject they like the least.

I personally think something like American History would be the worst.
 
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I said in my description that the person is average in all academic area so he has no bias.
 
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xdrgnh said:
I said in my description that the person is average in all academic area so he has no bias.

Oh sorry.

In that case Pure Math.
 
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Ivan92 said:
How is Engineering not on this list?!
you are joking?
 
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xdrgnh said:
Go tell a Philosophy major that.

I've talked to philosophy majors. I'm surprised a lot of them know how to make their own breakfast.
 
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I see you have a masters in Physics. Try to answer the question that Physics answers without math. That's what Philosophy majors do in a certain sense.
 
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They answer questions without using English?
 
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xdrgnh said:
I see you have a masters in Physics. Try to answer the question that Physics answers without math. That's what Philosophy majors do in a certain sense.

Wow. Then I wonder how philosophers even get out of bed, let alone make breakfast.

It's very easy to describe physics without math. "If I drop a ball, it will fall".
 
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Pengwuino said:
Wow. Then I wonder how philosophers even get out of bed, let alone make breakfast.

It's very easy to describe physics without math. "If I drop a ball, it will fall".
What's so special about you?
 
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Pengwuino said:
I've talked to philosophy majors. I'm surprised a lot of them know how to make their own breakfast.

Oh ohhhh ohh this was so directed to me lol
 
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I could've sworn Penguin is working on his masters atm.
 
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Anyways, you can't beat mathematics if you want to start measuring things.
 
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xdrgnh said:
I see you have a masters in Physics. Try to answer the question that Physics answers without math. That's what Philosophy majors do in a certain sense.

Philosophers use logic. Isn't that a type of math?
 
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This thread is becoming a massive p!ssing contest. This type of question has never produced a meaningful discussion in my experience.
 
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Here comes the mathematician... I mean, he's just so above us all.

lol
 
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Don't let the mathematician try to butt in! He probably couldn't solve low energy compton scattering! *chuckles*
 
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Yes, I am saying Philosophy is easy. I know many philosophy majors and they all admit that it's very easy. They get straight A's with about 80% attendance.
 
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Willowz said:
Here comes the mathematician... I mean, he's just so above us all.

lol

Pengwuino said:
Don't let the mathematician try to butt in! He probably couldn't solve low energy compton scattering! *chuckles*

I am far from being a mathematician. The honors linear algebra course I'm currently taking is the most advanced course I've experienced. In other words, I'm still a complete newb.
 
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On what criteria are you basing "hardest"?

As far as work load goes, engineering, science, and math majors study far more then other majors (including philosophy). In fact, at my school it seems the standards of all the non engineering, science, and math are pathetically low. My 1 credit hour physics lab is probably ~3 times more work then my 4 credit hour macroeconomics class.

Additionally I find it easier to get high grades in my non technical courses (like humanities electives).

Although I still think the question is pointless. It is difficult to be "great" in any field.
 

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