What Are the Unknown Forces Shaping Our Random Thoughts?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the nature of random thoughts and the influences that various activities, such as showering and swimming, have on cognitive processes. Participants explore how different environments and physical exertion can affect mental clarity and creativity, as well as the implications of modern distractions on thought patterns.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that activities like showering or swimming can lead to clearer thinking and allow for creative thoughts to emerge, while others argue that swimming requires intense concentration that can inhibit thought.
  • One participant notes that showering may be one of the few times people allow their minds to wander creatively, contrasting this with the constant distractions from mobile devices.
  • Several participants share personal experiences regarding how different types of workouts, such as HIIT, affect their mental state, with some finding it clears their mind while others focus intensely on physical performance.
  • A later reply humorously reflects on the idea that one might not be aware of significant events (like the sun exploding) due to the time it takes for light to reach them, adding a layer of existential thought to the discussion.
  • In a separate thread, participants discuss a physics problem regarding measuring temperature changes in a sealed container, with various methods proposed and challenged, highlighting the complexity of the problem and the need for careful consideration of assumptions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on how physical activities influence thought processes, with no clear consensus on whether such activities enhance or inhibit creative thinking. The discussion about the physics problem also shows multiple competing approaches and no agreement on the correct method to determine temperature changes.

Contextual Notes

Participants' claims about the effects of physical activities on thought processes depend on personal experiences and may not generalize. The physics discussion involves unresolved assumptions about the system's constraints and the methods proposed for measuring temperature changes.

  • #31
OmCheeto said:
Since e = mc2, a rise in temperature would be a rise in energy would be a rise in mass.
You'd just need a very very fancy scale.
Correct!
 
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  • #32
DaveC426913 said:
Alas, no.

The container is sealed and insulated, the temperature has to go up by some internal method - one that doesn't rely on adding energy. Therefore the mass will remain unchanged.

(Have to run this by Ivan. He didn't specify where the heater is in the system, but hints seem to require it be internal. eg. No holes for probes...)
It was constructed with wires protruding for a heating element, and then sealed. :) But you could simply shake it or swirl the water and raise the temperature as well. But as OM indicated, you would need a very, very, very sensitive scale. :oldbiggrin:

The mass increases due to the increased average speed of the molecules as the energy of the system increases.
 
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  • #33
Ivan Seeking said:
...But as OM indicated, you would need a very, very, very sensitive scale. :oldbiggrin:...
Perhaps we should get my ex-wife in here. She was very sensitive!

-Dan
 
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  • #34
PeroK said:
Thought from today's shower: what if there were a Nobel prize for music?
Well... what music has changed the world the most? (Outside of influencing other music?)
 
  • #35
Algr said:
Well... what music has changed the world the most? (Outside of influencing other music?)
Depends on the era. Back in the 50's I'd say the beginning of the Rock era, and if you want to get a bit more modern I'd say that John Williams has had quite an effect on Symphony (though some don't actually like his influence.)

-Dan
 
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  • #36
Algr said:
Well... what music has changed the world the most? (Outside of influencing other music?)
 
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  • #37
Algr said:
Well... what music has changed the world the most? (Outside of influencing other music?)
Religious chant.
 
  • #38
How long until Facebook [Meta] is populated by chatbots all arguing with each other?
 
  • #39
Ivan Seeking said:
How long until Facebook [Meta] is populated by chatbots all arguing with each other?
Wasn't that about 3 years ago?
 
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  • #40
PeroK said:
Thought from today's shower: what if there were a Nobel prize for music?
This post has been driving me nuts. If it's just popular music then I could have a good crack at it but to include all music would be so difficult to narrow down without having a detailed knowledge of all the genres.
For me three contenders.
Popular, show (musical and film) and Jazz.
Perhaps I'll do a poll in the music category.
 
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  • #41
This song has gone where few songs have ever gone before! Where is it now?

 
  • #42
Ivan Seeking said:
This song has gone where few songs have ever gone before! Where is it now?


about 14.4 billion miles out.

I always thought this was so cool! The man was forgotten in his own time [died a horrible death] but his work may outlast the earth itself!
 
  • #43
Posts discussing UFOs have been deleted. Let's keep it light here, thanks.
 
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  • #44
PeroK said:
Thought from today's shower: what if there were a Nobel prize for music?
Dylan got a Nobel Prize for his music.
 
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  • #46
BillTre said:
Dylan got a Nobel Prize for his music.
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I had no idea!!! WOW!!!
Bob Dylan
The Nobel Prize in Literature 2016
Born: 24 May 1941, Duluth, MN, USA
Prize motivation: “for having created new poetic expressions within the great American song tradition”
Prize share: 1/1
https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/literature/2016/dylan/facts/
 
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  • #47
That owl would be a good surprise emoticon.
 
  • #48
BillTre said:
That owl would be a good surprise emoticon.
It is now. :)

Just a big one!
 
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Happy now? :oldbiggrin:
 
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  • #51
Hamiltonian said:
After you die, you'll still receive emails for years.
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My grandpa died and his Medical Insurance company kept mailing him ‘Health and Lifestyle’ Magazines. It annoyed me and upset me as he was a flawed man but a good man. After several years I sent them all back unopened and wrote on the front of each magazine.....”My grandfather Joseph Alexander died 3 years ago, please stop sending these magazines to him as his Health couldn’t be worse and his Lifestyle is unlikely to change.”.
 
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  • #52
surffoil said:
My grandpa died and his Medical Insurance company kept mailing him ‘Health and Lifestyle’ Magazines. It annoyed me and upset me as he was a flawed man but a good man. After several years I sent them all back unopened and wrote on the front of each magazine.....”My grandfather Joseph Alexander died 3 years ago, please stop sending these magazines to him as his Health couldn’t be worse and his Lifestyle is unlikely to change.”.
An ex-colleague died in tragic circumstances in 2010.

Sometime later I received an alert from his linked in asking me to “link” to him, like it was from him.

I think there was an image of him too.

Very spooky for about 2 seconds before I realized it was just one of those automatic things.

Still freaks me out that his life stopped abruptly at 35, two young children and that’s it.
 
  • #53
frost_zero said:
The sun could have exploded at this moment and you wouldn't know it until 8 minutes have passed
If the sun exploded, you would not know it when the wave front got here. The wave front would be moving at very close to the speed of light. Your nerve impulses move very much slower than that, something in the neighborhood of 100 m/s. So, by the time your nerve impulses traveled from any part of you to your brain, you would no longer have nerves.
 
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  • #54
I often Ponder that as no one knows the Nature of Time, the force or whatever is still out there to be found. And I wonder what could be all around us, equal, indivisible , yet so far, unknown.
 

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