What caused the collision between Amy's Perodua Myvi and the Honda Insight?

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The discussion revolves around a collision between two vehicles, a Perodua Myvi and a Honda Insight, at an intersection. The original poster seeks to prove that the driver of the Myvi was under the speed limit of 60 km/h based on the aftermath of the collision, including the distances skidded by both vehicles.

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  • Participants discuss relevant equations, such as the conservation of momentum, and question the assumptions needed to analyze the collision. Some express uncertainty about the nature of the collision (elastic vs. inelastic) and its implications for momentum transfer.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring various interpretations of the collision dynamics. There is acknowledgment of the complexity involved, and some participants suggest that unreasonable assumptions may be necessary to reach a conclusion.

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Participants note the lack of sufficient information to definitively calculate speeds or momentum, and there is mention of potential misleading clues in the scenario, such as the involvement of other objects during the collision.

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Amy was traveling East with Perodua Myvi 1.3 when she entered the fateful intersection. When she reached the center of the intersection, her car was struck by the other car, Honda Insight which was traveling South. Her car skidded 15m and the Honda Insight skidded 30m after the collision. The speed limit on both roads is 60km/h
Prove that she was under the speed limit

I could not find enough info from this question to calculate. Can anyone help?
 

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What equations do you know that might be applicable to this?
 
M1U1+M2U2=M1V1+M2V2
i think is related to this formula
 
I'm coming to the conclusion that we have to make some unreasonable assumptions, in order to arrive at an answer.

Had we been asked to prove that she was speeding, I'd have offered the evidence that her car moved the house back 10 metres! :smile:

The fact that the car from the north seems to have been involved in two collisions may be a clue, on the other hand, it may be a red herring. Maybe it just clipped a power pole? Though if the vehicles do collide for a second time, the force of collision deflects their paths in exactly the wrong directions!

The collision transferred to the east-travelling car an amount of momentum equal to that with which it had before the collision. But an equal loss of momentum by the car from the north seems to not have slowed its southward progression by nearly as much, implying that it had lots more momentum to begin with. The eastwards momentum that was transferred to the car from the north deflected its travel only slightly in comparison with its southward travel.

Their paths actually cross again after the collision, too. Mysteriously. Maybe there's a clue there. Obviously, the car with greatest speed got to the point where paths intersect ahead of the later car.

I'm not going to be able to solve this on my own!
 
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Thanks for your reply..erm i think this collision is inelastic.. the thing you saying is for elastic if i m not mistaken.. look at the picture.
 
gamepro9 said:
Thanks for your reply..erm i think this collision is inelastic.. the thing you saying is for elastic if i m not mistaken.. look at the picture.
Transfer of momentum is independent of elastic or inelastic collision. By "looking at the picture" I can make no deduction regarding elastic or inelastic (except in the obvious case where the two vehicles become fused together).
 

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