Finding real and complex factors of polynoms

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The discussion revolves around factoring complex polynomials, specifically focusing on the polynomials z³ + 8 and z⁴ - 1. Participants express challenges in understanding the process and seek clarification on how to approach these tasks.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • The original poster attempts to find both real and complex factors of the given polynomials, sharing their initial findings and expressing a desire for guidance on the approach. Other participants suggest methods such as using long division and polar form to identify roots, while questioning the necessity of factoring these polynomials.

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Participants are actively sharing their methods and reasoning, with some providing insights into the nature of complex roots and the importance of conjugate pairs. There is an ongoing exploration of different approaches, but no explicit consensus has been reached regarding the best method to solve the problems.

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Some participants note that the tasks are taken from a textbook and emphasize the practice aspect of factoring polynomials. There is mention of potential spelling errors and a need for clarity in terminology, particularly regarding the term "conjugate."

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Hi. I'm having some trouble factoring complex polynomials. I'm sure it's very easy assignments, but I'm missing some key-information as to how to solve these tasks.

Tasks:

The task is to find the complex and real factors of the polynomials(since I'm not that articulate in english I will provide the answer for the first task, just so it's easier to see what type of answers the task is looking for)

a) z3 + 8

b) z4 - 1

c) I will provide this one if I still don't get it.

(I decided to list two tasks since I find that it is easier to compare the solution to different tasks than to just try and understand how one solution works. However, at this point I'm happy with any help I can get, since I'm pretty much stuck).

Answer:

a) (z + 2)(z - 1 - i\sqrt{3})(z - 1 + i\sqrt{3}) = (z + 2)(z2 - 2z + 4)

(Side note: i = \sqrt{-1})

PS: telling me how to approach the task and solve it is just as good(if not better), than just solving the task. Then I can actually try to solve it myself.

Thanks, Noorac=)
 
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umm... I'm not sure why you (or they) want to factorize these polynomials, persoanlly I find it easiest to do the following: (I'll use a) as an example)

1) make z^3=-8
2) you will have the most obvious solution, ie z = -2 or z+2=0
3) use long division to perform \frac{z^3}{z+2} and you should obtain the other factor

another method is to draw the most obvious solution on an argand plane. The amount of solutions of the polynomial is equal to the highest power of z, and all solutions have the same modulus and same angular spacing to each other, you can then work out the complex roots that way
 
Wukunlin:

(The reason to finding the factors are non other than practice, it's a task taken from my textbook).

I've tried a), and as far as I know, made it, yet I can't make it for the other ones(b).
Heres how i solved a)

z3 + 8 => \sqrt[3]{8}ei*\frac{pi}{3} = 2(cos\frac{pi}{3} + i*sin\frac{pi}{3}) = 1 + i\sqrt{3}

Wich has gotten me a bit closer to the solution(the complex root). The answer is on the form:

Cn(z - r1)(z - r2)...
And since this is a real polynomial, the conjugent(is this the right english word for switching the sign infront of the complex part of the equation?) is also a root, meaning I have:

Cn(z - (1 + i\sqrt{3}))(z - (1 - i\sqrt{3})). Now, all I need to find out is what Cn is. How?

For the real factor, I just decided to take the third root of z3 + 8 = z + 2
and perform long division(I'll spare the actual division):

z3 + 8 : z + 2 = z2 - 2z + 4

This gives me the correct real factor: (z + 2)(z2 - 2z + 4)

Is this the correct way to solve this? Or is there a more elegant way? If it is correct, I still have trouble doing b)

Edit; spelling errors
 
C_n I believe corresponds to the coefficient of z in this case (1)

you pretty much did what I meant to say, except in your first line, you could have set the argument to 0 instead of \frac{\pi}{3}

then when you do the long division you will get (z^2 - 2z + 4), and then you could find the other 2 roots using the quadratic formula
 
conjugate, is the word

and its worth remembering any complex roots will always come in conjugate pairs as well

i find a good way is to write it is as
z^3+8 = 0

then re-arrange and write in complex polar form z=re^{i \theta}
z^3=r^3e^{i 3 \theta}=-8

from there, you should be able to find the thetas that only give real values in the exponential
3 \theta = n \pi
\theta = n \frac{\pi}{3}
n =0,1,2

and the corresponding r should follow
 

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