What Causes Voltage Drops in P-N Diodes During Reverse Bias?

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The discussion revolves around an experiment involving p-n diodes, specifically focusing on the behavior of voltage across a resistor and the diode during forward and reverse bias conditions. The original poster is attempting to understand the voltage drops observed in their setup, particularly in reverse bias, and is questioning the relationship between the voltages across the components and the source voltage.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • The original poster describes their experiment and observations regarding voltage drops in both forward and reverse bias conditions. They question why the potential drop appears equal across both the resistor and diode in reverse bias, leading to confusion about the total voltage exceeding the source voltage. They also inquire about the possibility of reaching breakdown voltage.

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Participants are actively engaging with the original poster's observations, asking clarifying questions about the measurement setup and suggesting potential issues with the wiring of the measuring device. There is a recognition of possible errors in unit interpretation, and some guidance is offered regarding expected current levels in reverse bias.

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The original poster is working within the constraints of an experimental setup involving a DC source and specific resistor values, and they are exploring the implications of their measurements without having reached a definitive conclusion about the behavior of the diode in reverse bias.

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ok i was doing an experiment on p-n diodes
i was asked to plot graph of voltage across resistor VS voltage of diode
with a DC source varying from 0 to 30V
resistor 1k ohm
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The Attempt at a Solution



i understand the forward bias where the graph shows that the voltage across the diode is very small at 0.5V max even when the voltage across the resistor is increasing like mad. it shows that most of the voltage drop occurs over the resistor and not the diode which is right

but the problem is the 2nd part. on the reverse bias.

why is the potential drop equal on both the resistor and the diode? namely 30 V each. since it is series connection, how can the total potential drop of 60V be more than my source's max 30V ?

have i reached breakdown voltage yet? because i read that avalanche braekdown usually occurs at >50V?
so my graph is still just reverse bias only?

thanks!
 
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Exactly what connections did you make with the meter to measure the resistor voltage and diode voltage?
 
it was a x-y graphing machine plotter or sorts

so it plots the voltage of its x-y terminals

so i connected the x voltage measuring wires across the diode and the y across the resistor.

could it be the machine extrapolated itself? but i don't think that's the case, because it plots as i increase the source from 0 to 30V, so when source reaches 30V , the graph i obtain is as such :O
 
quietrain said:
it was a x-y graphing machine plotter or sorts

so it plots the voltage of its x-y terminals

so i connected the x voltage measuring wires across the diode and the y across the resistor.

could it be the machine extrapolated itself? but i don't think that's the case, because it plots as i increase the source from 0 to 30V, so when source reaches 30V , the graph i obtain is as such :O

So, the machine has two pairs of wires, one pair for measuring "x" and another pair for measuring "y"?

It sounds like there may have been a mix-up in your sensor wiring for the reverse bias testing. Perhaps the "ground" lead for both x and y were at the same location: the cathode of the diode.
 
gneill said:
So, the machine has two pairs of wires, one pair for measuring "x" and another pair for measuring "y"?

It sounds like there may have been a mix-up in your sensor wiring for the reverse bias testing. Perhaps the "ground" lead for both x and y were at the same location: the cathode of the diode.

oh i realized maybe i screwed up the units :(

will it make more sense if the voltage across the Y (resistor) become 0.03V ? that means the scale for Y is 3mV/cm and for X is 3V/cm
 
Yes, that would be better, but still not great. I would expect the reverse current to be on the order of a few microamps for a typical rectifier diode. Small signal diodes would do much better (lower) than that.

If you're getting 0.03V across the 1k resistor, then that's about 30 micro amps, which is high, but not totally impossible.
 
thank you!
 

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