What Is the Ideal Resistor Value for a Diode Circuit Using Load-Line Analysis?

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around determining the optimal resistor value for a circuit that includes a diode, battery, and resistor, utilizing Load-Line Analysis to analyze the circuit's behavior.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the effects of using a 1KΩ resistor, noting that it results in a significant voltage drop across the resistor and an unexpectedly high current through the diode. There are inquiries about the accuracy of the diode equation and the parameters used in calculations. Some participants suggest using software for more accurate analysis and question the steps taken to determine the load line.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the diode equation and load line method. There is a recognition of the variability in diode parameters and the potential for different interpretations of the load line analysis. Some guidance has been offered regarding the calculations and the use of software tools, but no consensus has been reached.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working within the constraints of homework guidelines and are exploring assumptions related to the diode's behavior and the accuracy of their calculations. There is an acknowledgment of the challenges faced in applying the load line method for the first time.

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Homework Statement


Determining the best resistance for my simple circuit consisting of a diode, battery, and resistor. Doing this using Load- Line Analysis

Homework Equations


ID = VD - V / R - Given by KVL[/B]

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The Attempt at a Solution


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Here I have attempted using a 1KΩ resistor, obviously too small because I have a voltage drop of about 8.2V across the resistor so then there should be a drop of approx. 1.8 V across the diode. However using the diode equation this gives me way too large of a current.
 
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I don't know that your sketch of ## I=I_0 (exp^{eV/(n k_b T)}-1) ## is real accurate. Otherwise your load line looks close to correct. The ## I_0 =1 E-12 ## is only an estimate. Did you compute the exponential with ## e=1.602 E-19 ##, ## k_b=1.381 E-23 ##, and ## T=300 ## with ## V=.7 ##? And n=2? The diode equation is only an estimate, but I think experimentally you are likely to get close to I=9 mA with ## R=1 k \Omega ##. I think the ## V_{on}=.7 \, Volts ## for a silicon diode is a pretty good number.
 
Dear Charles, yes I did compute it with all of those values, however the computation I perform with a 1KΩ gives me a current that is too high for my diode, thus I know that I need a resistor with higher resistance. I will attempt to use the online DESMO software and see what that will give me. Should be a tad bit more accurate with the graph. From my work though is it accurate the steps I took to determine the load line? I am simply asking because this is what I THINK is correct, but this is also my first type encountering such a load - line problem.

Thanks!
 
kenef said:
Dear Charles, yes I did compute it with all of those values, however the computation I perform with a 1KΩ gives me a current that is too high for my diode, thus I know that I need a resistor with higher resistance. I will attempt to use the online DESMO software and see what that will give me. Should be a tad bit more accurate with the graph. From my work though is it accurate the steps I took to determine the load line? I am simply asking because this is what I THINK is correct, but this is also my first type encountering such a load - line problem.

Thanks!
You did it correctly. The load line is very useful also in cases where the DC voltage varies for constant resistance. In that case the x-intercept (Voltage of the voltage source) will vary with the entire load line moving in the horizontal direction. Every so often I have encountered problems that use the load line method to solve them. ## \\ ## For your diode current, I do think if you use ## V_{Diode}=.7 ## and compute current ## I=(V_0-.7)/R ## it will give you a fairly accurate answer without the load line method. I googled the Schockley diode equation, and they did not give a precise value for ## I_0 ## or n. I think you can get considerable variation in these parameters from one diode to another. ## \\ ## Just an additional item about the load line method: You begin with a graph of your working component, in this case ## I=I(V_{Diode}) ## i.e. of ## I ## vs. ## V_{Diode} ##. In a series circuit(It only works for the series circuit) you have ## V_0=I R +V_{diode} ##. This equation can be written (solving for ## I=I_{Diode} ) ## as ## I=-(1/R) V_{Diode}+(V_0/R) ## which is a straight line (with ## I=y ## and ## V_{Diode}=x ##) that has slope ## m=-1/R ## and the x-intercept is ## V_0 ##. (Usually you use ## \ ## ## y=mx+b ##, and ## b ## is the y-intercept), but here the x-intercept is important. The intersection of the load line with the graph of ## I=I(V_{Diode}) ## is the operating point.
 
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