What combination of generators can produce a particular SU(2) matrix?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around identifying a specific SU(2) matrix and determining the combination of generators that can produce it. Participants explore the properties of the matrix in question and its relation to SU(2) and SU(3) representations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a matrix \( U = \text{diag}(e^{2i\alpha}, e^{-i\alpha}, e^{-i\alpha}) \) and questions whether it is an SU(2) matrix in the adjoint representation.
  • Another participant suggests that the matrix actually belongs to SU(3) and questions the identification of generators for SU(2) versus SU(3).
  • A later reply discusses the automorphisms of \( su(2) \) and mentions the fundamental group of \( SU(2, \mathbb{C}) \) being \( SO(3, \mathbb{R}) \), providing examples of rotations that could be relevant.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on whether the matrix belongs to SU(2) or SU(3), indicating a lack of consensus on the classification of the matrix and the appropriate generators to use.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved questions regarding the distinction between matrices in the adjoint representation of SU(2) and those in the fundamental representation of SU(3), as well as the specific generators involved.

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Hello everyone,
I have a question that will probably turn out to be trivial. I have the following matrix:

$$
U=\text{diag}(e^{2i\alpha},e^{-i\alpha},e^{-i\alpha}).
$$

This seems to me as an SU(2) matrix in the adjoint representation since it's unitary and has determinant 1. Am I right?

If so, for a small value of [itex]\alpha[/itex] from what combination of the generators can I obtain it?Thanks!
 
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SU(3). Which are your generators?
 
Oh you're right. Then my mistake was to try to find a combination of the J=1 generators of SU(2) while I should have looked for the SU(3) generators! Then I guess my question becomes even dumber: how do I distinguish an matrix belong to the adjoint of SU(2) from one belonging to the fundamental of SU(3)?
 
I don't know the automorphisms ##su(2)##. They are in ##GL(3,ℂ)##, that's right.
Have a look here. Just calculate it.

The fundamental group of ##SU(2,ℂ)## is ##SO(3,ℝ)## - as far as I can see - generated by the following rotations

[tex]\left[ {\begin{array}{*{20}{c}} {e^{it}}&{0}\\ {0}&{e^{-it}} \end{array}} \right] , \left[ {\begin{array}{*{20}{c}} {cos (t)}&{sin (t)}\\ {-sin (t)}&{cos (t)} \end{array}} \right] , \left[ {\begin{array}{*{20}{c}} {cos (t)}&{i * sin (t)}\\ {i *sin (t)}&{cos (t)} \end{array}} \right][/tex]

Here are further informations.
 

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