What Constitutes Trust and How Do We Establish It?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of trust, exploring its definition, the factors that contribute to establishing it, and the implications of trust in personal relationships and broader contexts. Participants examine trust from various angles, including personal experiences, emotional aspects, and even non-human entities.

Discussion Character

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants define trust as "assured reliance on the character, ability, strength, or truth of someone," emphasizing the importance of honesty.
  • Others suggest that trust is built over time through experiences and the opportunity to correct mistakes.
  • One participant presents a contrasting view, stating that trust can be seen as a weakness or a tool.
  • A humorous remark indicates that love may alter the dynamics of trust, suggesting a different perspective on its role in relationships.
  • Another participant introduces the idea of trust in non-human contexts, questioning how one can trust an inanimate object, such as sandstone, to provide support.
  • There is a mention of defining trust through biochemistry and neurology, alongside experiential feelings, highlighting the complexity of the concept.
  • One participant expresses a preference for trusting logic and the scientific method over interpersonal trust.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on trust, with some agreeing on its definitions and importance in relationships, while others challenge the notion of trust as inherently positive or necessary. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives on the nature and implications of trust.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight various conditions and factors that influence trust, indicating that the discussion is nuanced and dependent on personal experiences and interpretations. There are unresolved questions about the nature of trust in different contexts.

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Trust. What is it? Who do you trust? What makes you trust them?

Change happens and trusted individuals suddenly become untrustworthy or you yourself change and become less trusting or trustworthy.

What are the ingredients of trust?

Can you trust yourself? What makes you trust anyone including yourself?

Is it after some length of time that trust is granted?

Is it after some sort of certification like being bonded or granted some kind of metal or important position?

Does trust come when a person makes a gesture of one quality or another?

Who do you trust?
 
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Trust is the "assured reliance on the character, ability, strength, or truth of someone," or "one in whom confidence is placed." I think primarily truth or honesty of the other person.

I suppose I trust friends and family members. Also, I hope if I make a mistake that I will be given the opportunity to correct the mistake or make amends.

I trust friends to be honest with me.

Obviously I trust certain people whom I've known and to whom I have entrusted myself.

Loss of trust can be annoying, dispiriting to downright devastating, e.g. when one spouse finds that the other has been unfaithful.

I think some time is required for complete trust to be established - it comes with experience.


Why trust others? Because to live without trusting anyone would be a sad existence.
 
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Trust is weakness and a tool meant to be used.
 
Unless love is involved. Then you can do whatever you want :smile:
 
Astronuc said:
Trust is the "assured reliance on the character, ability, strength, or truth of someone," or "one in whom confidence is placed." I think primarily truth or honesty of the other person.

I suppose I trust friends and family members. Also, I hope if I make a mistake that I will be given the opportunity to correct the mistake or make amends.

I trust friends to be honest with me.

Obviously I trust certain people whom I've known and to whom I have entrusted myself.

Loss of trust can be annoying, dispiriting to downright devastating, e.g. when one spouse finds that the other has been unfaithful.

I think some time is required for complete trust to be established - it comes with experience.


Why trust others? Because to live without trusting anyone would be a sad existence.

Astronuc. These are a lot of conditions that make up trust. It begins to look like a synergy of, as you say, reliance, ability, strength, truth and so on. Is it like some kind of stew?!

Lets use the term "trust" as it applies to a situation that does not involve another human being.

Say you step on to a piece of sandstone that has to support you and keep you from slipping into a raging river. You put your trust in the sandstone. How is this possible? Trusting a stone?
 
Hmm...

Astronuc said:
Trust is the "assured reliance on the character, ability, strength, or truth of someone," or "one in whom confidence is placed." I think primarily truth or honesty of the other person.

I suppose I trust friends and family members. Also, I hope if I make a mistake that I will be given the opportunity to correct the mistake or make amends.

I trust friends to be honest with me.

Obviously I trust certain people whom I've known and to whom I have entrusted myself.

Loss of trust can be annoying, dispiriting to downright devastating, e.g. when one spouse finds that the other has been unfaithful.

I think some time is required for complete trust to be established - it comes with experience.Why trust others? Because to live without trusting anyone would be a sad existence.

I think it's kinda funny how we rationalists define things using more definitions. And then I remember that it's so much more complex than that.Well, there are two solid ways to define it, that I can see:

Through biochemistry and neurology: the chemical process in the brain that make up the reactions necessary to experience "trust."

Through the experiential feelings that humans have that make up trust, and what it means to them.Using the second method --because I suck at chemistry 101-- I defined it thusly:

Trust is the idea that roughly stated means to accept a nearly complete free-flow of information between two or more individuals, or the allowance of certain actions, with the expectation of a non-negative effect(s) to occur.
Who or what do I trust? I trust logic, the scientific method, and the person I will one day choose to live with.
 

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