What Coordinate Transformation Converts a Complex Metric to Minkowski Space?

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The discussion revolves around identifying a coordinate transformation that converts a complex metric into the Minkowski metric. The original metric is presented in a specific form involving parameters and variables, and participants are exploring how to relate it to the simpler Minkowski metric.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants are attempting to identify corresponding terms in the two metrics and are discussing the nature of coordinate transformations. Some suggest specific forms for the transformations, while others question the completeness of these transformations.

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The discussion is ongoing, with various participants offering insights and suggestions regarding the transformation process. There is recognition of the need for a comprehensive approach to the entire metric, and some participants are exploring potential forms for the transformations without reaching a definitive conclusion.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the notation and the completeness of the transformations being proposed. Participants are also considering the implications of the transformations on the metric's structure and the necessity of ensuring all terms are accounted for.

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How can I identify the coordinate transformation that turns

[tex]ds^2 = \left(1+\frac{\epsilon}{1+c^2t^2}\right)^2c^2dt^2 - \left(\frac{\epsilon}{1+x^2}\right)^2x^2 - \left(\frac{\epsilon}{1+y^2}\right)^2y^2 - \left(\frac{\epsilon}{1+z^2}\right)^2z^2[/tex]

into the Minkowski metric

[tex]ds^2 = c^2dt^2 - dx^2 - dy^2 - dz^2[/tex]?
 
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Logarythmic said:
How can I identify the coordinate transformation that turns

[tex]ds^2 = \left(1+\frac{\epsilon}{1+c^2t^2}\right)^2c^2dt^2 - \left(\frac{\epsilon}{1+x^2}\right)^2x^2 - \left(\frac{\epsilon}{1+y^2}\right)^2y^2 - \left(\frac{\epsilon}{1+z^2}\right)^2z^2[/tex]

into the Minkowski metric

[tex]ds^2 = c^2dt^2 - dx^2 - dy^2 - dz^2[/tex]?

You forgot a bunch of d's in the first equation, and you should use different symbols for the coordinates in the two equations - maybe primes in the second.

What happens if you identify corresponding terms in the two metrics?
 
My equations looks just like that, but I guess they are wrong. (P. Coles, Cosmology)
What dou you mean by identify?
 
Maybe
[tex]\left(1+\frac{\epsilon}{1+c^2t^2}\right)^2c^2dt^2 = c^2dT^2[/tex]
[tex]\left(\frac{\epsilon}{1+x^2}\right)^2dx^2 = dX^2[/tex]
etc?
 
Yes that I can see, but that's not a transformation for the whole metric?
 
Logarythmic said:
Yes that I can see, but that's not a transformation for the whole metric?

I'm not sure what you mean by this.

You're looking for coordinate transformations, i.e., [itex]X = X \left( t, x, y, z)[/itex], etc. Then, e.g.,

[tex]dX = \frac{\partial X}{\partial{t}} dt + \frac{\partial X}{\partial{x}} dx+ \frac{\partial X}{\partial{y}} dy + \frac{\partial X}{\partial{z}} dz.[/tex]

A new coordinate does not have to depend explicitly on all of the old coordinates, i.e., some of the terms in the above expansion can be zero.
 
So I can just give the answer to the problem as whatta did above?
 
no you probably are supposed to solve that in the form of x(X), y(Y)... t(T) or viceversa
 
Like

[tex]t(T)=T+\frac{\epsilon}{c}\arctan{cT}[/tex]
[tex]x(X)=\epsilon\arctan{X}[/tex]
[tex]y(Y)=\epsilon\arctan{Y}[/tex]
[tex]z(Z)=\epsilon\arctan{Z}[/tex]

so that

[tex]dt = \left(1+\frac{\epsilon}{1+c^2T^2}\right)dT[/tex]
[tex]dx = \left(\frac{\epsilon}{1+X^2}\right)dX[/tex]
[tex]dy = \left(\frac{\epsilon}{1+Y^2}\right)dY[/tex]
[tex]dz = \left(\frac{\epsilon}{1+Z^2}\right)dZ[/tex]

and then

[tex]ds^2=c^2dt^2-dx^2-dy^2-dz^2 = \left(1+\frac{\epsilon}{1+c^2T^2}\right)^2c^2dT^2 - \left(\frac{\epsilon}{1+X^2}\right)^2dX^2 - \left(\frac{\epsilon}{1+Y^2}\right)^2dY^2 - \left(\frac{\epsilon}{1+Z^2}\right)^2dZ^2[/tex].

Is this correct?
 
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except that you have lost -1 somewhere
 
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I don't feel that positive..?
 

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