What Defines the Zero Vector in Modified Vector Space Operations?

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The zero vector in the modified vector space defined by the operations ⊕ and k~ is (1, -2). This was determined by solving the equation (x, y) ⊕ (a, b) = (x, y) using the provided addition formula (x, y) ⊕ (a, b) = (x + a - 1, y + b + 2). The additive inverse of a vector (x, y) is found to be (-x + 2, -y - 4), which was confirmed through the operations defined in the discussion. The analysis highlights the importance of correctly applying the modified operations to derive these results.

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  • #31
LCKurtz said:
Yes in ##R^2## but not in your problem. That isn't your rule for scalar multiplication.

Oh okay so

k~(x, y) = (kx - k + 1, ky + 2k -2)
-1~(x,y) = -x + 1 + 1, -y -2 - 2
= -x + 2, -y - 4

So -(x, y) = (-x + 2, -y - 4)

and that is correct since I got that as my answer when I did it the other way. So I can conclude that if I want to get the additive inverse of any vector, I can multiply that vector by scalar ##-1## using the rules for scalar multiplication given.
 
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Yes that is correct. I don't think we need to beat this horse any more. But using these techniques you could verify all the axioms of a vector space work even though its arithmetic rules may seem bizarre. To paraphrase, "This ain't your daddy's vector space".
 
  • #33
LCKurtz said:
Yes that is correct. I don't think we need to beat this horse any more. But using these techniques you could verify all the axioms of a vector space work even though its arithmetic rules may seem bizarre. To paraphrase, "This ain't your daddy's vector space".

Thanks for your all your help Professor LCKurtz.
 
  • #34
how do you find the -v vector then ?
 
  • #35
what is the correct awnser for -v
 
  • #36
LCKurtz said:
The additive inverse of (x,y) is the vector (a,b) you can ⊕ to (x,y) and get the additive identity.

s_nirmit said:
how do you find the -v vector then ?

The answer is in the thread or you can do it yourself starting with the above statement.
 
  • #37
is it -v= (1-x), (-2-y) ?
 
  • #38
s_nirmit said:
is it -v= (1-x), (-2-y) ?

No. Read the thread and/or show your work.
 

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