What Determines the Most Probable Value of r in Hydrogen's Ground State?

In summary, the conversation discusses the solution for problem 4.14 in Griffiths' textbook, where the most probable value of r in the ground state of hydrogen is being determined. The approach involves finding the probability density by integrating over the angular coordinates and then maximizing it by taking the derivative. The purpose is to find the point at which the probability density is at its maximum. The poster also raises a question about finding the probability of a particle in a particular energy eigenstate, but it is clarified that the solution is following the proposed hint.
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Homework Statement


Griffiths 4.14: What is the most probably value of r, in the ground state of hydrogen? (Hint: First you must figure out the probability that the electron would be found between r and r+dr.

Here is the posted solution:

http://www.glue.umd.edu/~syang9/problem%204.14%20solution.PNG

I don't understand the approach; why does multiplying the probability density by [tex] \[
4\pi r^2 dr\] [/tex] give the probability that the electron will be found between r and r+dr? Why do we differentiate p(r)? In general, I thought the way to find the probability of a particle being in a particular energy eigenstate was to take the inner product of the general wavefunction with the energy eigenstate..

[tex]
\[
\left| {c_n } \right|^2 = \int_{ - \infty }^\infty {\Psi ^* (\overrightarrow {\bf{r}},t) \cdot \psi (r){\rm{ }}dr}
\]
[/tex]

But the general wave function is a sum which involves [tex] c_n [/tex].. so I don't understand what governs which approach to take..
 
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I hope this question doesn't fall into the abyss of unanswered questions, forever forgotten by all..
 
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It takes longer to fall into the abyss of unanswered questions than two hours. Be patient. The solution is doing exactly what the hint proposes. It's finding the probability density of the wave function as a function of r by integrating over the angular coordinates. That's where the 4*pi*r^2 comes from, it's what you get from that integration together with the volume element in spherical coordinates. Then you maximize it, hence the derivative.
 
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So I want to figure out at what point the probability density is a maximum; that's why I set the derivative to zero. OK, I get it, thanks!
 
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(Also, yes, you are right. I will try to be more patient.)
 
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