What direction does light move in an ancient shrine?

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The problem involves the movement of light in an ancient shrine with walls aligned to cardinal directions. It describes how light from the rising sun enters through a window in the eastern wall and reflects off the western wall, with specific focus on the direction of the reflected light on the eastern wall.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants discuss the direction of the smaller square of light and question the original poster's assertion of a 15-degree upward movement. There is uncertainty about whether this direction is northward or southward.

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Participants are exploring the implications of latitude on the direction of light movement and the significance of the sun's position during the spring equinox. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need for a reference direction to determine the movement accurately.

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There is a lack of specific information about the shrine's location, which affects the ability to definitively answer the direction of the light's movement. The problem setup suggests a simplified model, but assumptions about latitude and the sun's path are under discussion.

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Homework Statement


The walls of an ancient shringe are perpendicular to the four cardinal compass directions. On the first day of spring, light from the rising sun enters a rectangular windows in the eastern wall. The light traverses 2.37m horizontally to shine perpendicularly on the wall opposite the window. A tourist observes the patch of light moving across this western wall.

Part A:
The speed the illuminated rectangle move is 1.7×10^(-4)m/s

Part B:
The tourist holds a small, square mirror flat against the western wall at one corner of the rectangle of light. The mirror reflects light back to a spot on the eastern wall close beside the window. The speed of the smaller square of light moves across the wall at 3.45×10^(-4)m/s

Part C:
In what direction does this smaller square of light on the eastern wall move.

Homework Equations


v(1)=rω
v(R)=2V(1)

The Attempt at a Solution


I was able to do the part A and part b when I got to part c I said 15 degrees upward but I was told I need to put more information so I am not sure about this answer.
 
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hi deltafee! :smile:
deltafee said:
… when I got to part c I said 15 degrees upward …

yes, but 15° upward to the north, or to the south? :wink:
 
The reflection on the wall will not move upward, and I'm curious as to how you calculated 15 degrees. Won't it depend on the latitude?
As tiny-tim suggests, the question might (also?) be asking whether the reflection moves to the north or the south. However, there's not enough information to answer this unless you assume the shrine is in a particular hemisphere. Again, it comes down to the latitude.
 
Here's a clue
..." traverses 2.37m horizontally to shine perpendicularly on the wall" ...
Which means the sun's reflection will move downwards as it rises upwards?
 
Basic_Physics said:
Here's a clue
..." traverses 2.37m horizontally to shine perpendicularly on the wall" ...
Which means the sun's reflection will move downwards as it rises upwards?
I fail to see what the perpendicularity has to do with it.
 
In order to talk about direction you need a reference direction. In this case it is a line perpendicular to the wall. The sun will rise upwards from this direction, agreed a bit tilted over towards the north or south depending on the latitude (unless it is on the equator), but with the given info this will barely be visible. On the spring equinox it will also rise due east.
 
Basic_Physics said:
In order to talk about direction you need a reference direction. In this case it is a line perpendicular to the wall. The sun will rise upwards from this direction, agreed a bit tilted over towards the north or south depending on the latitude (unless it is on the equator), but with the given info this will barely be visible. On the spring equinox it will also rise due east.

The direction of movement would be the same even if the light ray were not exactly perpendicular to the wall. The point of mentioning it at all in the statement of the problem is merely to reassure the reader the building is roughly a box, not some peculiar shape.
 

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