What Do ΔH Values Represent in Chemical Reactions?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the interpretation of ΔH values in three chemical reactions involving sodium hydroxide (NaOH) and hydrochloric acid (HCl). Participants explore the heat changes associated with the dissolution of NaOH and its reactions with HCl, focusing on the net ionic equations and the relationships between the ΔH values calculated from the lab experiments.

Discussion Character

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  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that ΔH1 represents the heat evolved from the dissolution of solid NaOH in water.
  • ΔH2 is proposed to represent the heat evolved during the reaction of NaOH with HCl, described as a single displacement reaction.
  • ΔH3 is described as the heat evolved when hydrogen and hydroxide ions react to form water in a neutralization reaction.
  • There is confusion regarding how ΔH2 relates to the sum of ΔH1 and ΔH3, with some participants asserting that ΔH2 should equal (ΔH1 + ΔH3) based on the processes occurring in reaction 2.
  • Participants express uncertainty about the significance of net ionic equations and the specific contributions to heat in the second reaction.
  • One participant emphasizes the need to consider the different sources of heat in the reactions, particularly in reaction 2.
  • Another participant attempts to clarify that reaction 2 involves both the dissolution of NaOH and the neutralization process, leading to the conclusion that the heat evolved should reflect both processes.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the interpretation of ΔH2 in relation to ΔH1 and ΔH3. There are competing views on the contributions of each reaction to the overall heat evolved, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the specific roles of the net ionic equations in explaining these relationships.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the assumptions underlying their interpretations, particularly regarding the net ionic equations and the heat contributions from each reaction. There are indications of potential errors in calculations or conceptual misunderstandings that have not been fully addressed.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to students and educators in chemistry, particularly those exploring thermodynamics, reaction energetics, and the interpretation of experimental data related to chemical reactions.

Draggu
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Hi, here is a basic summary of what we did in a lab; there were 3 reactions:

The procedure:
Reaction 1: Solid sodium hydroxide dissolves in water to form an aqueous solution of ions.
NaOH(s)-> Na+(aq) + OH-(aq) ΔH1=-34.121kJ

Reaction 2: Solid sodium hydroxide reacts with an aqueous solution of HCl to form water and an aqueous solution of sodium chloride.
NaOH(s) + H+(aq) + Cl-(aq) -> H2O + Na+(aq) + Cl-(aq) ΔH2=-83.602kJ

Reaction 3: An aqueous solution of sodium hydroxide reacts with an aqueous solution of HCl to form water an an aqueous solution of sodium chloride.
H+(aq) + OH-(aq) + Na+(aq) + Cl-(aq) -> H2O + Na+(aq) + Cl-(aq) ΔH3= -50.2kJ

The ΔH values were calculated by dividing the heat gained by the number of moles (each reaction had 0.05moles of NaOH)

The problem:

Net ionic equations for reaction 2 & 3:

2: NaOH(s) + H+(aq) -> H2O + Na+(aq)
3: H+(aq) + OH-(aq) -> H2O

i) In reaction 1, ΔH1 represents the heat evolved as solid NaOH dissolves. Look at the net ionic equations for reactions 2 and 3 and make similar statements as to what ΔH2 and ΔH3 represent.

ii) Compare ΔH2 with (ΔH1 + ΔH3). Explain in sentences the similarity between these two values by using your answer to #5 above.

Attempt at answering:
i) Firstly, ΔH2 represents the heat evolved as the hydrogen ion displaces the sodium ion, creating a single displacement reaction. ΔH3 represents the heat evolved as the hydrogen and hydroxide ion form water via a neutralization reaction.

ii) ΔH2 is equal to (or supposed to be, this is a source of error while calculating) (ΔH1 + ΔH3). The similarity between these two values is that .. (this is where I get confused!)
 
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Draggu said:
i) Firstly, ΔH2 represents the heat evolved as the hydrogen ion displaces the sodium ion, creating a single displacement reaction. ΔH3 represents the heat evolved as the hydrogen and hydroxide ion form water via a neutralization reaction.

These were two different experiments, yet what you state is in both cases heat evolved is just that of the neutralization reaction.

Think again about what must happen in the first case (that is, second reaction).
 
Borek said:
These were two different experiments, yet what you state is in both cases heat evolved is just that of the neutralization reaction.

Think again about what must happen in the first case (that is, second reaction).

I thought about it and I'm still hazy by what you mean. "both cases heat evolved is just that of the neutralization reaction."
 
I agree that taken out of context it doesn't make sense, but in the context in which I wrote it I still think it is OK. But let's try to reword it, and remember that what I wrote refers to the quote from your post:

Draggu said:
i) Firstly, ΔH2 represents the heat evolved as the hydrogen ion displaces the sodium ion, creating a single displacement reaction. ΔH3 represents the heat evolved as the hydrogen and hydroxide ion form water via a neutralization reaction.

The way you wrote it there is no difference between sources of heat evolved in both experiments - if you try to write reaction equations for each process as described, you will see that in both cases it is H+ + OH- -> H2O. This is obviously wrong - you are omitting something.

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Hi, I'm still unsure what I am omitting.

Part I: I assume reaction 3 is the energy/heat gained as the H and OH molecules react because they are the only two in the net ionic equation.

Part II:
Perhaps I'm not understanding the purpose of the net ionic equations other than that if there is a product created, it creates energy and the net ionic equation eliminates a substance that is on both sides.

This is exactly what I wrote in a word file, for the lab:

It appears that (H1 + H3) is very similar to H2. Using logic, H2 should be equal to (H1 + H3) because reaction 2 undergoes both reaction 3 and reaction 1 at the same time, as shown from the net ionic equations.

The similarity between these two values is that in reaction 1, NaOH(s) dissolves into Na+(aq) + OH-(aq) ions and in reaction 3, hydrogen and hydroxide ions form H2O. In reaction 2, both of these reactions are occurring during the single displacement reaction. The solid NaOH dissolves into Na+(aq) and HOH, and the H+ ions and OH- ions eventually form water too, during the single displacement reaction. Thus, reaction 2 will have the same energy as the sum of reaction 3 and reaction 1.
 
Google heat of dissolution or heat of solvation.

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I googled it and even searched through threads on this forum, but I still can't get a solid answer.

What I know is H1 + H3 = H2

Why? I don't know. I don't understand why they add up. I also don't understand what I am omitting in the 3rd net ionic equation.

In the lab it says to explain these using the net ionic equations only.
 
What about

NaOH(s) -> Na+(aq) + OH-(aq)

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  • #10
When solid NaOH dissolves, heat evolves. That's your 1st experiment - heat of dissolution. When dissolved NaOH reacts with acid (neutralization), heat evolves - that's your 3rd experiment, heat of neutralization.

What are sources of heat in your 2nd experiment?

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  • #11
Alright, so would this be fair to say?

Reaction 2 represents the heat evolved as the sodium ion(s) in sodium hydroxide(s) is displaced with the hydrogen ion(aq), producing water and a sodium ion(aq). It also represents the heat evolved from the dissolved NaOH and the neutralization of water.

Reaction 3 represents the heat evolved as a hydrogen ion and hydroxide ion undergo a neutralization reaction, producing water.


The solid NaOH dissolves into a liquid NaOH in reaction 1. This is the heat of dissolution. In reaction 3, the reaction undergoes a neutralization reaction, creating water. In reaction 2, the NaOH dissolves into a liquid and also forms water, thus, both reactions occur doing reaction 2, making H2 = (H1+H3)
 
  • #12
Right :smile:

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