Predicting and Writing Net Ionic Equations for Chemical Reactions

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around predicting and writing net ionic equations for various chemical reactions. Participants explore the conditions under which reactions occur and the challenges in identifying and canceling spectator ions in the equations.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a series of reactions and attempts to write net ionic equations, expressing confusion about canceling ions that appear on both sides of the equation.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of recognizing that ions in solution have different states and charges compared to their solid forms, using silver and chromium as examples.
  • Questions arise regarding how to determine the charges of ions in different states, with some participants suggesting the use of oxidation numbers and the periodic table as resources.
  • There is a mention that some elements have fixed oxidation states, which can aid in determining the charges of ions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of understanding regarding the identification of spectator ions and the determination of ionic charges. There is no consensus on the best approach to resolve the confusion surrounding these concepts.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note that the understanding of ionic charges may depend on memorization of certain rules and the use of the periodic table, indicating a potential limitation in the discussion regarding foundational knowledge.

Who May Find This Useful

Students studying chemistry, particularly those learning about ionic equations and reactions, may find this discussion relevant.

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Homework Statement



For each of the following situations, identify those for which a reaction likely to occur. For those that do occur, white a net ionic equation.
a) Chromium dipped into silver nitrate.
b) Gold immersed in hydrochloric acid
c) Nickel pellets dropped into calcium acetate, Ca(C2H3O2)2.
d) Aluminum dropped into a bath of sulphuric acid.
e) Zinc dipped into a solution of lead(II) nitrate.


The Attempt at a Solution



This is what I got:
a)Cr(s) + 2AgNO3(aq) --> Cr(NO3)2 + 2Ag(s)
Separate the aqueous ions:
Cr(s) + 2Ag(aq) + 2NO3(aq) --> Cr(aq) + 2NO3(aq) + 2Ag(s)
Then I'm supposed to remove the ions common to both sides...but
then I end up with none at all b/c each one is on both sides...?
b) no reaction
c) no reaction
d) 2Al(s) + 3H2SO4(aq) --> Al2(SO4)3(aq) + 3H2(g)
Here I get the same problem as in (a) when I separate them.
e) Zn(s) + Pb(NO3)2(aq) --> Zn(NO3)2(aq) + Pb(s)
Again, same problem...if I separate the aqueous ions and get rid of the common ones I end up with nothing.

What am I doing wrong? If someone can show me how to do this that would be great, thanks!
 
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mcandrewsr said:

Homework Statement



For each of the following situations, identify those for which a reaction likely to occur. For those that do occur, white a net ionic equation.
a) Chromium dipped into silver nitrate.
b) Gold immersed in hydrochloric acid
c) Nickel pellets dropped into calcium acetate, Ca(C2H3O2)2.
d) Aluminum dropped into a bath of sulphuric acid.
e) Zinc dipped into a solution of lead(II) nitrate.

The Attempt at a Solution



This is what I got:
a)Cr(s) + 2AgNO3(aq) --> Cr(NO3)2 + 2Ag(s)
Separate the aqueous ions:
Cr(s) + 2Ag(aq) + 2NO3(aq) --> Cr(aq) + 2NO3(aq) + 2Ag(s)
Then I'm supposed to remove the ions common to both sides...but
then I end up with none at all b/c each one is on both sides...?
b) no reaction
c) no reaction
d) 2Al(s) + 3H2SO4(aq) --> Al2(SO4)3(aq) + 3H2(g)
Here I get the same problem as in (a) when I separate them.
e) Zn(s) + Pb(NO3)2(aq) --> Zn(NO3)2(aq) + Pb(s)
Again, same problem...if I separate the aqueous ions and get rid of the common ones I end up with nothing.

What am I doing wrong? If someone can show me how to do this that would be great, thanks!

Be careful when you cancel off spectator species, make sure that they are indeed the same thing!

Firstly, note that the silver and nitrate exist as IONS in solution i.e.:

AgNO3(aq) --> Ag+(aq) + NO3-(aq)

So make sure you include the charges. This then indicates that the silver (and chromium) species on each side are NOT the same i.e. Ag+(aq) is completely different from Ag(s), so you cannot cancel them off, so overall, you are left with:

Cr(s) + 3Ag+(aq) --> Cr3+(aq) + 3Ag(s)
 
How do I know the different charges of ions when they are in different states? Ex. How does Cr(s) have a different charge than the aqueous one? How do I figure this out for any others?
 
There are a set of elements that have set oxidation numbers (for example oxygen normally has an oxidation number of 2-). By using these, you can determine what the other charges are.

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mcandrewsr said:
How do I know the different charges of ions when they are in different states? Ex. How does Cr(s) have a different charge than the aqueous one? How do I figure this out for any others?

Cr(s) is not ionic.

Otherwise - use periodic table. But some things you will just have to remember.
 

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