What does a company do if taxes are raised?

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The discussion revolves around the implications for companies in a specific sector when taxes are raised, particularly focusing on shareholder reactions and potential company responses. It explores the effects of increased corporate taxes on profits, pricing strategies, and operational adjustments, as well as the broader economic impact on consumers and workers.

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  • Some participants propose that private companies may pay the tax and seek ways to shield income in subsequent years, while public companies might evaluate their return on investment to decide on share sales.
  • There is a suggestion that companies could respond to tax increases by reducing wages or increasing product prices, potentially affecting aggregate supply curves in the sector.
  • Some participants emphasize that the burden of corporate income taxes often falls on consumers and workers, prompting a question about the evidence supporting this claim.
  • One participant raises the distinction between the choices of shareholders and management in response to tax increases.
  • It is noted that companies with small profit margins must react to any profit-impacting factors, including tax hikes, by either passing costs to customers or relocating operations.
  • Another viewpoint suggests that companies in competitive industries are already streamlined and may have limited options for cost-cutting.
  • Shareholders may direct management to avoid increasing debt, seek ways to improve sales and margins, refrain from hiring new employees, renegotiate purchasing costs, tighten credit cycles, and hire better tax accountants.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express multiple competing views regarding the responses of companies to tax increases, and the discussion remains unresolved on the best strategies and implications for different types of companies.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations in understanding the full impact of tax increases, including assumptions about market conditions, competitive dynamics, and the specific financial health of companies.

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If taxes are raised on a specific sector, what does a company on that sector does? For example, the company is getting a liquid profit of $1.000.000 a year, and the tax on profits is 30%. $300.000 goes to taxes.
Now the tax is raised to 50%, and the company has just lost $200.000 per year. How do shareholders react and what are the usual responses to those reactions?
 
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If it's a private company, they pay the tax and look for a way to shield income the next year. If the private company has passive investors - they may try to sell their shares back if possible (it will depend on the terms of their specific agreement - price may be based on total return).

If it's a public company, they'll weigh their return on investment and make a decision to sell the shares or not.
 
WhoWee said:
If it's a private company, they pay the tax and look for a way to shield income the next year. If the private company has passive investors - they may try to sell their shares back if possible (it will depend on the terms of their specific agreement - price may be based on total return).

If it's a public company, they'll weigh their return on investment and make a decision to sell the shares or not.

And what other things does the company do? What about reducing wages and increasing products' prices? Would this reduction in the company's profit change the aggregate supply curves for the products of that sector?
 
This addresses the important question of who bears the cost of corporate income taxes and the answer in most cases is consumers and workers
 
BWV said:
This addresses the important question of who bears the cost of corporate income taxes and the answer in most cases is consumers and workers

What evidence do we have of that?
 
Are we focused on the choices and actions of shareholders or the management?
 
Tosh5457 said:
If taxes are raised on a specific sector, what does a company on that sector does? For example, the company is getting a liquid profit of $1.000.000 a year, and the tax on profits is 30%. $300.000 goes to taxes.
Now the tax is raised to 50%, and the company has just lost $200.000 per year. How do shareholders react and what are the usual responses to those reactions?
Most companies have very small profit margins. A company that has a negative profit margin (i.e., it is losing money) won't be in business for long. To stay in business for any length of time, the company has to react to every little thing that impacts the profit margin. When a supplier increases the costs of some resource, the company can either raise their prices in return or can try to switch vendors.

When the cost increase is a tax hike, the company can either pass that tax increase on to their customers or can move the operation in question to a different venue. There aren't many other choices. Cut payroll? Employees will walk. Cut costs elsewhere? If the company is in a competitive industry, they oftentimes can't. Companies in a competitive industry are already quite streamlined (those that aren't have already gone bankrupt).
 
D H said:
Companies in a competitive industry are already quite streamlined (those that aren't have already gone bankrupt).

It should also be noted they would all be faced with the same tax increase.
 
The shareholders might provide a few of these directives to management:
1.) don't increase debt
2.) try to find a way to improve sales and margins - not because they haven't maximized in the past - but because the tax increase may have eliminated a few competitors.
3.) don't hire any new employees and find a way to trim payroll and benefits.
4.) renegotiate all purchasing costs
5.) tighten the credit cycle (accounts receivable management)
6.) hire a better tax accountant
 

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