The discussion centers on the concept of "basal level" expression of the metallothionein gene, which refers to the minimum detectable expression of a gene under normal conditions, even when it is repressed. Participants clarify that basal expression can be identified at the mRNA level, indicating that some mRNA is present despite repression, as exemplified by the lac operon. However, the relationship between mRNA and protein expression is emphasized, noting that mRNA detection does not necessarily correlate with protein levels. The metallothionein gene is highlighted as an example of a gene regulated by various factors, where it is expressed at a basal level but can be induced by heavy metals or glucocorticoids. The term "basal level" is defined as the amount of gene expression present under baseline conditions, which can change with external manipulations. Overall, the conversation underscores the nuances of gene regulation and expression measurement in biological contexts.