What Does Force Mean in Different Contexts?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of "force" and its varying meanings in different contexts, particularly contrasting everyday language with scientific terminology. Participants explore the implications of these definitions and their relevance to physics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that "force" can refer to both physical actions and abstract concepts of power, such as a deity or military force.
  • Another participant argues that the question is not strictly a physics inquiry, suggesting that the word "force" has multiple meanings in English.
  • A participant highlights that while "force" and "power" can be synonymous in everyday language, they have distinct meanings in physics.
  • There is a mention of the tendency for scientists to repurpose existing words rather than create new terms, with a nod to exceptions like "quark."
  • One participant humorously connects the term "quark" to a type of cheese, questioning the implications of such naming conventions.
  • A later reply asserts that the original post's use of terminology is confusing and not aligned with scientific discourse, leading to a closure of the thread.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the appropriateness of the original question within a physics context, with some agreeing on the complexity of language while others find the discussion lacking in scientific clarity. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of the term "force."

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the ambiguity in the use of the term "force" across different contexts, but do not reach a consensus on its implications for scientific understanding.

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Hi

When reading about forces I see two things.

1. forces that act or do something.

2. force as something that has power, like god, god is a force, or, an army is a force, or, police force.

the "one" that acts has the same name as the act itself "force".


Why is that?



Thanks
 
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Hi.

This is not really a physics question. The answer to your question is, "because the word force has multiple meanings in English."

New Oxford American Dictionary said:
|fɔrs|
noun
1 strength or energy as an attribute of physical action or movement : he was thrown backward by the force of the explosion.
• Physics an influence tending to change the motion of a body or produce motion or stress in a stationary body. The magnitude of such an influence is often calculated by multiplying the mass of the body by its acceleration.
• a person or thing regarded as exerting power or influence : he might still be a force for peace and unity.
• [in combination ] used with a number as a measure of wind strength on the Beaufort scale : a force-nine gale.
2 coercion or compulsion, esp. with the use or threat of violence : they ruled by law and not by force.
3 mental or moral strength or power : the force of popular opinion.
• the state of being in effect or valid : the law came into force in January.
• the powerful effect of something : the force of her writing is undiminished.
4 an organized body of military personnel or police : a soldier in a UN peacekeeping force.
• ( forces) troops and weaponry : concealment from enemy forces | figurative a battle between the forces of good and evil.
• a group of people brought together and organized for a particular activity : a sales force.
• (the force) informal a police department.
5 Baseball a force out.
• a situation in which a force out is possible.

I hope this helps.
 
eranb2 said:
… 2. force as something that has power, like god, god is a force, or, an army is a force, or, police force.

Hi eranb2! :smile:

Each of those examples can also be called a power.

But force and power have different meanings in physics.

(Similarly, stress and strain have essentially the same meaning in ordinary English, but different meanings in physics.)

The simple fact is that scientists naming something prefer to use an existing word, rather than invent one like chortle or wabe. :rolleyes:
 
tiny-tim said:
scientists naming something prefer to use an existing word, rather than invent one
Of course, there are exceptions, like "quark". But yes, I agree with you and cepheid
 
DaleSpam said:
Of course, there are exceptions, like "quark". But yes, I agree with you and cepheid

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quark_(cheese )

quark is a type of cheese. I think this is incidental though.
 
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flatmaster said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quark_(cheese )

quark is a type of cheese. I think this is incidental though.

so does this mean everything is made of cheese?

I don't understand

:D
 
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The point is that the OP is using words that have different meanings in different contexts. But this is "Physics Forums", so the relevant context is the scientific one. In that context, most of what the OP said is just gibberish.

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