What Does It Mean to Be Sexy for Women and Men?

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The discussion centers on the definition of "sexy" in both women and men, exploring various attributes that contribute to this perception. Participants express that sexiness is not solely about physical appearance or wearing revealing clothing; rather, it encompasses intelligence, personality, and a sense of playfulness. Many agree that qualities like loyalty, sensitivity, and the ability to engage in meaningful conversation enhance attractiveness. The conversation also touches on the idea that sexiness can be subjective and culturally influenced, with some participants noting differences in perceptions between Western and Middle Eastern cultures. Humor and confidence are highlighted as appealing traits in men, while women are appreciated for their individuality and imperfections. Overall, the thread emphasizes that true sexiness combines both physical and intellectual attributes, along with a genuine personality.
  • #51
out where? :bugeye:

If this question is nonsense, the reason is it comes from non-sense text. [the post above...may be :devil: :biggrin: :bugeye: :rolleyes: ]
 
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  • #52
sexy mean kinky
 
  • #53
sexy is the adjective of SEX, so, sexy must have something to do with SEX
 
  • #54
Mmmm...

ok. I think it is fair enough :bugeye:
 
  • #55
Entropy said:
What makes a women sexy? Weak willed and low self-esteem. Sure it's cute and all to let them think they're people by letting them on the furniture or try on hats at the mall but sooner or later they start to get wild. Before you know, it'll start wanting stuff like equal rights or more than three meals a week. Can you believe? I mean I gave my last girlfriend got a whole 4x4 closet to itself and all I heard from it was "my legs are cramped in here!" or "please don't lock me in here another night!" or "I can't breathe, there isn't enough oxygen in here!" Unfortunately, I had to do away with that one.

For all you women out there: have you accepted the fact that no man love will love you, except for me? Do you feel that without a strong man [like me] you'll just suffer through life? If so, call me. :devil:

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i will have your babies, right here. right now. because i know that's all I'm here for, but i'll make it extra special for you.
 
  • #56
Moses said:
Well, i want to to ask a question, even it might sound dumb:
Do girls in the U.S REALLY take more into consideration the personality and actions of males more than their looks? I find the guys here are far more looking for good looks than personality.

I was in the middle east for a long part in my life with my parents [now i am here back again] I saw the arabs there [both sexes] looking for personality over the looks in their partners, even though males have more concetration on looks, but too far as here.
Many women (myself included) prefer intelligent men to men with just good looks.

The one time I chose looks over intelligence was my ex-husband. Ok, he wasn't exactly stupid, he was pre-med at Yale and graduated from Dartmouth, started his MBA at Harvard (he gave up medicine, he wasn't that smart).

He was a MAJOR mistake. I will go with an intelligent, sweet guy any day over someone that looks like my ex.

Here is my ex.
 

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  • #57
Evo, no offense, but if I saw a guy looking like your ex, I'd run the other way! Sure, he's good-looking, but almost too good-looking, if that makes any sense. I don't think I could trust someone that good looking. It requires too much self-indulgence to get a body like that. I'd just be wondering what was hiding behind that smile. But he does fit the stereotypical Ivy League look. All tan and big white smile. He's the sort who I'd be eager to knock down a few pegs if I met him in person. I know, it's stereotyping based on just looks, but that's my honest reaction.

Though, in answer to the question asked about whether women in the US really want intelligent men over good-looking men, it's really no different than whether men want good-looking vs intelligent women. There are shallow people of both sexes who will look for people based only on looks. I guess opposites attracting isn't really all that true. I think like attracts like. Someone only into appearances is going to be interested in other shallow people. Someone who is intelligent will seek other intelligent people.

Sexiness is in the eye of the beholder.
 
  • #58
Moonbear said:
Evo, no offense, but if I saw a guy looking like your ex, I'd run the other way! Sure, he's good-looking, but almost too good-looking, if that makes any sense. I don't think I could trust someone that good looking. It requires too much self-indulgence to get a body like that. I'd just be wondering what was hiding behind that smile. But he does fit the stereotypical Ivy League look. All tan and big white smile. He's the sort who I'd be eager to knock down a few pegs if I met him in person. I know, it's stereotyping based on just looks, but that's my honest reaction.
Actually, he hardly worked out at all, he's naturally muscular. Of course he is athletic, he was first string basketball and made All-American in football, star quarterback, in several tv shows and newspapers he was referred to as the "one man football team", a back injury in college killed his professional hopes. Yeah, he had a shrine to himself, that sickened me a bit. But that was several years before this photo was taken, he just naturally looked this way.

But he's typical of the guys that were always hitting on me. I had to seek out the nice, intelligent guys because they would never even approach me. :frown:

Guys, what I'm trying to say is, don't feel that any girl is not in your league, be confident, don't be afraid to approach her. She just might be hoping that someone like you will come along and save her from some arrogant jock!
 
  • #59
Evo said:
But he's typical of the guys that were always hitting on me. I had to seek out the nice, intelligent guys because they would never even approach me. :frown:

I've typically experienced the same thing, and we certainly see it among the guys here. The nice, intellectual guys are too nervous to ask the girls out! I think they also see a good-looking woman like you and probably assume you're already taken. Though, I have learned...the nice guys are the ones who don't mind if the woman does the asking.
 
  • #60
Saint said:
some said marylyn monroe is the sexiest woman of america, agree?

No. Marilyn Monroe is the sexiest not-that-great actress that prettyboys craced jokes about because they couldn't get their hands on pictures/videos of real women.

If you meant Marilyn Manson, it falls somewhere between unsexiest man and unsexiest woman.
 
  • #61
Sex is over rated. My grandfather once told me 'son, sex is a wonderful thing, but you must do something else the other 23h 55m a day'. Granny once told me that men were %99.6528 useless.
 
  • #62
Evo said:
Actually, he hardly worked out at all, he's naturally muscular.
I've known guys like that. Some can be nice, but most are natural jerks too.

As for me, I'm naturally skinny. :smile:
 
  • #63
Chronos said:
Sex is over rated. My grandfather once told me 'son, sex is a wonderful thing, but you must do something else the other 23h 55m a day'.
5 minutes eh? Must hae been magic being married to your grampa.
:biggrin:

Chronos said:
Granny once told me that men were %99.6528 useless.
Yeah but they didn't waste her time.
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  • #64
perfect match - sumos

Evo,

I too had an extremely good looking boyfriend (back in the 80's) but he wasn't even close to ... 60 on the scale? g? He was gorgeous. I won't say he was stupid, although he wasn't out of Yale like your x-friend, he was out of Soledad prison.

My first husband was a therapist, and difficult to look at. Very bright but no humor. My second husband I blacked out lol.

My third and final husband (i got lucky) is a touch of Einstein with an iq to match, a wilde sense of humor-buckwheat, with that Brad Pitt thang going on in appearance. He was a professional drummer-gittar/physics head. The icing was his soul.

Being with an extremely good-looking male certainly teaches a female that love really is free, not controlling, not jealous, not insecure. It is free. He taught me that. I finally took the choke chain off him long before the wedding vows at the river. The hand-cuffs are a different story :devil:
 
  • #65
Kate Jackson is sexier than Marilyn Monroe.

What makes a woman sexy? High heels. Especially those with real skinny stilleto heels. Considering the difficulty in calculating the moments of inertia when carrying a purse filled with enough supplies to cross the desert, the differences in torque created by walking, escpecially across a parking lot on a windy day, you just know a woman in those skinny high heels has to be great at calculus. :smile:

Okay, the dream woman would be a female math teacher with lively eyes. Decent legs and high heels wouldn't hurt, though.

Edit: And a woman who wears duct tape. http://www.exploremaine.com/~joeho/images/formal.jpg
 
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  • #66
I'm a cross between Einstein and Fabio.
einstein's looks, Fabio's brains.
 
  • #67
tribdog said:
I'm a cross between Einstein and Fabio.
einstein's looks, Fabio's brains.

I'd settle for Fabio's sense of romance. Skip his looks and brains, just pull up in a white horse-drawn carriage on a warm summer evening and nobody will notice the rest! :biggrin:
 
  • #68
As a keen observer of society, this is what I have concluded:

A sexy woman has full, perky breasts, spotless skin, a well-proportioned figure, a nice smile, a curvy butt, and a submissive nature. Intelligence isn't vital, but it shouldn't be too far below average.

A sexy man has > 6' height, a well-toned figure, a nice smile, a strong voice, a confident and aggressive personality, and a competitive nature. Intelligence is important, and should be above average.

Not all of these aspects are necessary, but the more the merrier, so to speak.
 
  • #69
I personally think women are a lot more centered on looks than men are. I hear all sorts of crap women say about how 'oh, his personality is so great'...yeah, well, it just so happens all the good looking guys also have the best personalities? Please. I overhear women a lot saing "oh, he's cute, we should hook up."...and stuff like that.
 
  • #70
What is attractive varies greatly from one person to the next. Take for instance that idiot couple Nick and Jessica on tv. That Nick guy is creepy looking. I guess some women find him attractive? A lot of men that are supposedly "attractive", I find revolting.

A mans personality and intelligence is what makes him attractive as far as I am concerned. I know a lot of women that would agree.

I find that men usually are more drawn to a woman based first on looks, second on personality and intelligence. I can't count the number of men I know that are in horrible relationships with terrible women but remain with them because "they're hot". :confused:
 
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  • #71
BobG said:
What makes a woman sexy? High heels. Especially those with real skinny stilleto heels. Considering the difficulty in calculating the moments of inertia when carrying a purse filled with enough supplies to cross the desert, the differences in torque created by walking, escpecially across a parking lot on a windy day, you just know a woman in those skinny high heels has to be great at calculus. :smile:
BobG, I am going to take a picture of myself in my shiny 5" high patent leather red pumps holding my transcripts showing my "A+"s in calculus, and send it to you. I was thinking about putting on my sheer, black, back-seamed silk stockings and running a slide rule up my leg in the photo, but I think that might kill you. :smile:
 
  • #72
Math Is Hard said:
BobG, I am going to take a picture of myself in my shiny 5" high patent leather red pumps holding my transcripts showing my "A+"s in calculus, and send it to you. I was thinking about putting on my sheer, black, back-seamed silk stockings and running a slide rule up my leg in the photo, but I think that might kill you. :smile:
Dang MIH, I think you just killed off half the men reading this. :biggrin:

We really do need to do that PF calendar! MIH can be the centerfold! :-p
 
  • #73
Evo said:
Dang MIH, I think you just killed off half the men reading this. :biggrin:

We really do need to do that PF calendar! MIH can be the centerfold! :-p

hee hee.. thanks, Evo, but I think the "gatefold" shot truly belongs to Humanino. I have already cleared wall-space in my office for it! :biggrin:
 
  • #74
The clothes, hair and posture can make or break a sexy woman.
 
  • #75
Math Is Hard said:
hee hee.. thanks, Evo, but I think the "gatefold" shot truly belongs to Humanino. I have already cleared wall-space in my office for it! :biggrin:
Ah, yes, our PF Men of 2005 calendar! :-p

We need to remind these guys that they commited to being in the calendar! :biggrin:
 
  • #76
Evo said:
What is attractive varies greatly from one person to the next. Take for instance that idiot couple Nick and Jessica on tv. That Nick guy is creepy looking. I guess some women find him attractive? A lot of men that are supposedly "attractive", I find revolting.

A mans personality and intelligence is what makes him attractive as far as I am concerned. I know a lot of women that would agree.

I find that men usually are more drawn to a woman based first on looks, second on personality and intelligence. I can't count the number of men I know that are in horrible relationships with terrible women but remain with them because "they're hot". :confused:
That's why I love the internet. I could SERIOUSLY fall in love with someone online before ever seeing or touching or tasting them in real life. And the relationship would be stronger because you can have a relationship for a while before jumping into bed. Get to know the real person first. ahhh, I feel like such a girl right now. quick someone send a hooker and a steak to my place right now before it's too late and I become completely soft.
 
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  • #77
Also, and please correct me if I'm wrong, maybe I'm good looking in real life, but here, online, is where I shine. I am amazingly attractive. Everbody wants a piece of the tribdog.
 
  • #78
tribdog said:
That's why I love the internet. I could SERIOUSLY fall in love with someone online before ever seeing or touching or tasting them in real life. And the relationship would be stronger because you can have a relationship for a while before jumping into bed. Get to know the real person first. ahhh, I feel like such a girl right now. quick someone send a hooker and a steak to my place right now before it's too late and I become completely soft.

Who ever expected the internet would be the medium to return us to traditional values of getting to know each other through dating before jumping into bed?!
 
  • #79
Moonbear said:
Who ever expected the internet would be the medium to return us to traditional values of getting to know each other through dating before jumping into bed?!
don't get me wrong, I'm still going to ravish you like Gahndi after his hunger strike. But getting to know someone is cool too.
 
  • #80
tribdog said:
Also, and please correct me if I'm wrong, maybe I'm good looking in real life, but here, online, is where I shine. I am amazingly attractive. Everbody wants a piece of the tribdog.

a/s/l??/?//

That made me laugh though. Because I thoroughly agree.
 
  • #81
tribdog said:
don't get me wrong, I'm still going to ravish you like Gahndi after his hunger strike. But getting to know someone is cool too.

You ravished Ghandi after his hunger strike? :smile:
 
  • #82
guru's turn me on
 
  • #83
tribdog said:
guru's turn me on

I'll have to warn Les to watch his back around you. :biggrin:
 
  • #84
look at Moonbear, playing hard to get.
 
  • #85
Intelligence, intelligence, intelligence. If I can have a decent enough conversation with a girl, she's good enough for me. For me it is intelligence first, followed by personality and lastly physical attractiveness.

I especially like it when a girl can do something better than me. If she knows something that I do not, then she can teach me and vice-versa. This mutual-sharing of experiences is something that I like a lot.

I've seen some of the super-hot girls at our school. Every single time I was turned off by their personality, despite their looks. I stay far away from the girls who focus on physical beauty in men because I probably don't fit their standards. Sure I am a runner and all and I have a strong cardiovascular system, but I am not much of a weightlifter and I do not have those massive arms and chest muscles that those models have.
 
  • #86
motai said:
Intelligence, intelligence, intelligence. If I can have a decent enough conversation with a girl, she's good enough for me. For me it is intelligence first, followed by personality and lastly physical attractiveness.

I especially like it when a girl can do something better than me. If she knows something that I do not, then she can teach me and vice-versa. This mutual-sharing of experiences is something that I like a lot.

I've seen some of the super-hot girls at our school. Every single time I was turned off by their personality, despite their looks. I stay far away from the girls who focus on physical beauty in men because I probably don't fit their standards. Sure I am a runner and all and I have a strong cardiovascular system, but I am not much of a weightlifter and I do not have those massive arms and chest muscles that those models have.
I don't know, you sound like you believe what you are saying, but... I'm not trying to be rude here...I don't know if I buy it. Sounds a little too pc.
 
  • #87
tribdog said:
I don't know, you sound like you believe what you are saying, but... I'm not trying to be rude here...I don't know if I buy it. Sounds a little too pc.

He's hoping the rumors are true about the quiet, intellectual women. :wink:
 
  • #88
Moonbear said:
He's hoping the rumors are true about the quiet, intellectual women. :wink:

That they exist ? :confused:
 
  • #89
LOL! made a noise at that one
 
  • #90
Gokul43201 said:
That they exist ? :confused:

*bops Gokul with the Nerf bat*

Hmm...I can give the illusion I'm quiet, but you're right, quiet and intellectual don't really go together very often. :smile:
 
  • #91
Math Is Hard said:
BobG, I am going to take a picture of myself in my shiny 5" high patent leather red pumps holding my transcripts showing my "A+"s in calculus, and send it to you. I was thinking about putting on my sheer, black, back-seamed silk stockings and running a slide rule up my leg in the photo, but I think that might kill you. :smile:

Oh, I've considered you to be pretty hot ever since you revealed you collect calculators. Now, if you'd just make the switch from digital to analog (I worry about one of those VHS-Beta type relationships, you know).

You should try just one. It's not just setting up your slide rule for the law of sines and realizing that you've solved every single triangle that ever had those same three angles, or setting up your slide rule's index on the 'c' value of your quadratic formula and realizing that you've solved every single quadratic equation that ever had that value of 'c'.

It's the slide action of a good bamboo slide rule. If it's taken care of, bamboo has a 50 to 75 year life time and just gets better and better for decades. Bamboo slide rules are very sensuous.

Now, a picture of you actually using a bamboo slide rule. Yes, that would definitely kill me.
:smile:
 
  • #92
Intelligent, confident and modest, dark haired, dark eyed, slender male, knows who he is and what he wants is the sexiest thing !

I sometimes think -well this kind of thing comes to you when you see one- man who has moderate scars looks sexy. But, it is a rare thing...
 
  • #93
when did you ever see me?
 
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