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The discussion centers around the notation \nabla_{[a}F_{bc]} and its implications in the context of tensor calculus, particularly relating to the electromagnetic field tensor. Participants explore the meaning of the notation, its mathematical formulation, and its connection to the properties of antisymmetric tensors.

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  • Some participants explain that square brackets around indices indicate permutations of those indices, with the sign depending on whether the permutation is even or odd.
  • One participant proposes a mathematical expression for \nabla_{[a}F_{bc]} involving a sum over permutations of the indices, suggesting a specific formula for its expansion.
  • Another participant notes that if F is the electromagnetic field tensor, the equation simplifies due to its antisymmetry, leading to a different formulation.
  • One participant mentions that \nabla_{[a}F_{bc]}=0 corresponds to the Bianchi identity for the electromagnetic field, linking it to the concept of differential forms.

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Participants express varying interpretations of the notation and its implications, with some agreeing on the mathematical formulation while others propose different perspectives on its significance in the context of electromagnetic theory. No consensus is reached on a singular interpretation.

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Participants rely on specific properties of the electromagnetic field tensor and the mathematical framework of tensor calculus, which may not be universally applicable without additional context or definitions.

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Does anyone know what this means: [tex]\nabla_{[a}F_{bc]}[/tex]? I know that [tex]F_{(ab;c)}=\frac{1}{3}(F_{ab;c}+F_{bc;a}+F_{ca;b})[/tex], and presume that the first expression can be written thus [tex]F_{[bc;a]}[/tex], but am not sure what it means!

Can anyone help?
 
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cristo said:
Does anyone know what this means: [tex]\nabla_{[a}F_{bc]}[/tex]? I know that [tex]F_{(ab;c)}=\frac{1}{3}(F_{ab;c}+F_{bc;a}+F_{ca;b})[/tex], and presume that the first expression can be written thus [tex]F_{[bc;a]}[/tex], but am not sure what it means!

Can anyone help?

Any time you see square brackets around indices it means that you permute the indices, with even permutations receiving a plus sign and odd permutations receiving a minus sign. Thus,

[tex]\nabla_{[a}F_{bc]} = \frac{1}{3!}\sum_{\pi\in S(3)}\textrm{sign}(\pi)\nabla_{\pi(a)}F_{\pi(b)\pi(c)}[/tex]

where [itex]S(3)[/itex] is the symmetric group of order three, [itex]\pi[/itex] is a permutation, and sign[itex](\pi)[/itex] equals one for an even permutation of the elements and minus one for an odd permutation of the elements. In your case you can expand out the above definition to obtain

[tex]\nabla_{[a}F_{bc]} = \frac{1}{3!}(\nabla_aF_{bc} + \nabla_bF_{ca} + \nabla_cF_{ab} - \nabla_aF_{cb} - \nabla_bF_{ac} - \nabla_cF_{ba})[/tex]
 
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shoehorn said:
Any time you see square brackets around indices it means that you permute the indices, with even permutations receiving a plus sign and odd permutations receiving a minus sign. Thus,

[tex]\nabla_{[a}F_{bc]} = \nabla_aF_{bc} + \nabla_bF_{ca} + \nabla_cF_{ab} - \nabla_aF_{cb} - \nabla_bF_{ac} - \nabla_cF_{ba}[/tex]

Ahh ok, that makes sense. Thanks for the quick reply! In this case F is the electromagnetic field tensor, and so is antisymmetric. Would I be right in assuming that in this case the equation becomes [tex]\nabla_{[a}F_{bc]} = \frac{1}{3}\left(\nabla_aF_{bc} + \nabla_bF_{ca} + \nabla_cF_{ab}\right)[/tex]
 
cristo said:
Ahh ok, that makes sense. Thanks for the quick reply! In this case F is the electromagnetic field tensor, and so is antisymmetric. Would I be right in assuming that in this case the equation becomes [tex]\nabla_{[a}F_{bc]} = \frac{1}{3}\left(\nabla_aF_{bc} + \nabla_bF_{ca} + \nabla_cF_{ab}\right)[/tex]

Yes. If [itex]F_{ab}[/itex] are taken as the components of the Maxwell tensor then [itex]\nabla_{[a}F_{bc]}=0[/itex] is essentially the Bianchi identity for the electromagnetic field.

Another way to think about it is to notice that [itex]\nabla_{[a}F_{bc]}=0[/itex] is precisely the same statement as [itex]d\mathbf{F}=0[/itex] where [itex]\mathbf{F}=d\mathbf{A}[/itex] is the Maxwell two-form. The identity [itex]d\mathbf{F}=0[/itex] is guaranteed since for any [itex]p[/itex]-form field [itex]\mathbf{A}[/itex] one has [itex]d\cdot(d\mathbf{A})=0[/itex].
 
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That's a good way to think about it. Thanks a lot for your help, shoehorn!
 

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