What Does Skew Symmetry Imply for One-Dimensional Systems?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the implications of skew symmetry in one-dimensional systems, particularly in the context of equations involving state vectors and rotation matrices. Participants explore how skew symmetric matrices behave when reduced to one dimension and the relevance of this concept in different physical contexts, including potential connections to quantum physics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents an equation involving a skew symmetric matrix and queries how it simplifies when considering only the z state in a one-dimensional system.
  • Another participant questions the clarity of the original post and suggests that the use of LaTeX for mathematical expressions would improve communication.
  • A different participant expresses curiosity about the behavior of skew symmetry in one dimension, questioning what it implies for the matrix S.
  • One participant proposes that in one dimension, skew symmetry may lead to S being zero, and introduces a discussion about the implications of skew symmetric matrices in the context of quantum physics and Lie algebras.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the implications of skew symmetry in one-dimensional systems. There are competing views regarding the relevance and behavior of skew symmetric matrices in this context.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the lack of clarity in the original equations presented and the potential dependence on definitions of skew symmetry and dimensionality. The discussion also hints at unresolved mathematical interpretations related to the transition from three dimensions to one dimension.

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if I have a equation like (just a random eq.) p_dot = S(omega)*p. where p = [x, y, z] is the original states, omega = [p, q, r] and S - skew symmetric. How does the equation appear if i only want a system to have the state z?
Hi,

if I have a equation like (just a random eq.) p_dot = S(omega)*p. where p = [x, y, z] is the original states, omega = [p, q, r] and S - skew symmetric.
How does the equation appear if i only want a system to have the state z? do I get z_dot = -q*x + p*y. Or is the symmetric not valid so I simply get z_dot = z? or something else?
and the same for rotation matrix? : p_dot = R(omega)*p

Thanks for any replies!
 
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hoddy said:
(just a random eq.)
You are asking us to decode a random equation that you made up?

And it would help if you would please learn to post math equations using LaTeX. That would make your postings a lot more clear (well, maybe not if you keep posting random equations...).

The PF LaTeX tutorial is available in the Help pages, under INFO at the top of the page.
 
Hi berkeman. sorry, here is the complete equation with v, omega, f and g beeing 3x1 vectors:
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Im just curious about the first term with the skew symmetric, how it will turn out when I only have it in 1 dimension, like described in original post.
 
What should skew symmetry mean in one dimension? S=0? I suspect from your question that we speak about quantum physics, and the three dimensional skew symmetric matrices form a semisimple Lie algebra. It's no longer semisimple in the one dimensional case which is crucial, skew symmetric or not, hence irrelevant in the context you hinted at.
 

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