What exactly causes the Meissner effect

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The discussion centers on the Meissner effect, specifically exploring the underlying mechanisms at the atomic level that lead to the ejection or repulsion of magnetic fields from superconductors when they surpass a critical temperature. Participants examine various theoretical explanations and models related to this phenomenon.

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  • Some participants suggest that the Meissner effect involves surface currents created by back EMF, which generate magnetic fields that cancel the applied field.
  • Others propose that photons acquire an effective mass within the superconductor, transforming the electromagnetic interaction into a short-range force, thus limiting the fields to the surface.
  • A participant introduces the idea that superconductivity can be described by the Higgs mechanism of quantum electrodynamics (QED), specifically referencing the "Anderson-Higgs mechanism" as a significant theoretical framework.
  • There is a mention of the relationship between the London effect and the Higgs mechanism, suggesting a deeper connection in the theoretical understanding of superconductivity.

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Participants express multiple competing views regarding the mechanisms behind the Meissner effect, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved with no consensus reached on a singular explanation.

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Some claims rely on specific interpretations of superconductivity and the Higgs mechanism, which may depend on varying definitions and assumptions within the context of solid-state physics.

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What causes the effect when the critical temperature is reached?
I've read about the Meissner effect, it seems to suggest that a magnetic field passing through an object gets ejected/repelled (is that the right phrase to use?) from the object after said object has surpassed the critical temperature (i presume pressure as well?)... but what's actually happening at the atomic level to give rise to this effect?
 
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TheCelt said:
Summary: What causes the effect when the critical temperature is reached?

I've read about the Meissner effect, it seems to suggest that a magnetic field passing through an object gets ejected/repelled (is that the right phrase to use?) from the object after said object has surpassed the critical temperature (i presume pressure as well?)... but what's actually happening at the atomic level to give rise to this effect?
Do you mean, passing through a superconducting object? There are multiple explanations, all correct.
  1. surface currents, created by back EMF, create magnetic fields that exactly cancel the applied field. Just as happens in conductors, but more effectively.
  2. Photons (which convey the E and B fields) acquire an effective mass inside the superconductor, which turns the EM interaction into a short range force. Hence only surface E & B fields.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effective_mass_(solid-state_physics)https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meissner_effect
 
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To be more precise: Superconductivity is effectively described by the Higgs mechanism of QED in the medium. In this connection one should really talk about the "Anderson-Higgs mechanism", because Anderson had the idea for superconductivity at the same time or even before Higgs, Brout, Englert, Kibble, Guralnik, and Hagen found it as the solution for the quibble about massive weak gauge bosons, i.e., how to get a consistent gauge theory with massive gauge bosons.

https://doi.org/10.1143/PTPS.86.43
 
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vanhees71 said:
To be more precise: Superconductivity is effectively described by the Higgs mechanism of QED in the medium. In this connection one should really talk about the "Anderson-Higgs mechanism", because Anderson had the idea for superconductivity at the same time or even before Higgs, Brout, Englert, Kibble, Guralnik, and Hagen found it as the solution for the quibble about massive weak gauge bosons, i.e., how to get a consistent gauge theory with massive gauge bosons.

https://doi.org/10.1143/PTPS.86.43
Which is also described at the end of the wikipedia article, where the link between the London effect and the Higgs mechanism is made.
 
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