What factors affect the rate of sinking objects in water?

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The discussion focuses on the factors affecting the rate at which objects sink in water, specifically analyzing three instances involving blocks of varying mass and size. In Instance 1, heavier blocks fall faster due to greater mass, while in Instance 2, smaller blocks fall quicker as they have less water displacement despite equal mass. Instance 3 concludes that all blocks of the same material but different sizes fall at the same rate due to equal densities. The principles of Newton's second law, buoyancy, and free body force diagrams are central to these conclusions.

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Hi All,

I have a problem (with 3 separate instances) to which I believe I have the answers, but would like check with those more knowledgeable than myself. They revolve around 3 blocks sinking through water and which falls quicker. I am ignoring friction.

Instance 1:
All blocks are exactly the same shape and size. They have different masses however. Which falls quicker?

Instance 2:
All blocks are of different sizes (short/medium/long), but have the same mass. Which falls quicker?

Instance 3:
All blocks are made of the same material but are different sizes (short/medium/long). Which falls quicker?

My understanding of the answers is based upon Newton's second law, buoyancy and free body force diagrams:
W(obj) - W(wat) = mass of object x acceleration (where Weight of water is equal to its density x volume of object x gravity):

a- ( m(o) - m(w) ) g = m(o) a
b- ( p(o) - p(w) ) vg = p(o) v a (mass = density x volume)

1. Using eqn a: Although m(o) increases, m(w) remains constant, therefore acceleration increases and heavier mass falls quicker

2. Using eqn a: As they have the same mass, m(o) remains constant, but m(w) increases as the size of the object increases. Therefore, the smaller object falls quicker

3. Using eqn b: All densities are equal, but as the volume on both sides of the equation cancel each other out, they fall at the same rate

Is this the correct understanding? I believe it is, but it does do your head in!
 
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Hello jr, :welcome:

If you want to ignore friction, you are back to Galileo Galilei's experiments.
You equations are hard to read and understand. are the a and the b enumerators or variables ?

[edit] all right, enumerators.

Instance 1 and 2: I agree. Some can even move upwards...
Instance 3: agree also.

In all cases it's pretty straightforward to write an expression for the acceleration.
 
Thanks BvU,
It basically comes down to density. Those with greater densities sink faster than those with smaller densities.
It's basic physics but something I haven't needed to think about or do for ages - when they come up in aptitude tests you forget the equations and logic behind the reasoning!
 
Same here: Galilei had to do with non-vacuum and was genius enough to reason through that limitation. For a fish such luck isn't there :smile:
 

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