What Factors Determine the Breaking Point of a Paddle Under Dynamic Forces?

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The discussion revolves around the factors that determine the breaking point of a paddle subjected to dynamic forces, specifically focusing on the drag force from water and the force from a pneumatic cylinder. Participants explore the mechanics involved in calculating the forces and stresses acting on the paddle, considering both static and dynamic conditions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant introduces the drag force equation and the force from the pneumatic piston, suggesting that the paddle will break when the applied forces exceed its yield strength.
  • Another participant questions whether the paddle is fixed to the piston and raises the importance of considering the weight of the paddle and the moments induced by non-colinear forces.
  • A different viewpoint suggests treating the paddle as a beam and using principles of cantilever beams to analyze the forces acting on it.
  • Clarifications are made regarding the pivot point of the paddle and the relationship between the forces from the piston and the water drag force.
  • One participant emphasizes the need to compute the bending moment and bending stress on the paddle, providing a formula for calculating bending stress based on the moment and paddle dimensions.
  • Another participant provides a specific calculation for the bending moment, indicating that it depends on the velocity of the paddle.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the treatment of forces and moments acting on the paddle, with no clear consensus on the best approach to analyze the problem. Some participants agree on the need to consider bending moments, while others raise questions about the assumptions made regarding the paddle's constraints and forces.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions regarding the paddle's attachment to the piston and the effects of gravity. The discussion also highlights the complexity of the forces involved, including the need to account for moments and the specific conditions under which the paddle operates.

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Hi Everyone. I am trying to find out when this paddle (in red) would break due to the force of the drag of the water and from the force of the pneumatic cylinder that is pushing it. I took intro to statics but as you can see with the figure the machine is not static. Can someone point me to the right direction.
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Here is my attempt:

let the force of the water be the drag force of the water, F_w = C_d*rho*v^2*A_p , where C_d is the coefficient of drag of the paddle, rho is the density of water, v is the velocity of the paddel, and A_p is the cross sectional area of the paddle exposed to the water. The force of the pneumatic piston is, F_p = P*A_b = P*pi*d^2/4 , such that P is the pressure supplied to the cylinder and d is the diameter of the piston bore.

The paddle will break when the applied forces exceeds the paddles yield strength so. Let sigma be the yield strength resulting from the drag force and the force of the piston.

sigma = (F_w + F_p)/A_p

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Is the paddle fixed to the piston? There does not appear to be a pivot point. Does one consider the force of gravity, i.e., weight of paddle.

It is static in the sense that one is looking for the maximum force which would cause the maximum stress to exceed yield or critical shear stress if that is the criterion for failure. The force in the water occurs in conjunction with the force in the piston - but the two forces are not colinear, so there is a moment induced during motion of the paddle.
 
You can treat the problem as a beam. Consider the fixed end to be mounted and not moving. Then use the force of the water as you would a variably loaded cantilever beam. That should help you.
 
@ Astronuc , yes the paddle is fixed to the piston with a bracket (yellow) and the weight of the paddle is negligible compared to the forces applied to it. What do you mean there doesn't seem to be a pivot point?

@cstoos Shouldnt i consider the Force from the piston pushing the bracket. Wouldnt that increase maximum force being applied to the paddle?
 
meanswing: The pivot point (or rather, the point about which the paddle would try to rotate, if it could) is the centerpoint of the yellow bracket. The maximum possible force on the paddle, Fw, is Fw = Fp. Therefore, you can use Fp to compute Fw, unless you already have velocity v. You don't include Fp hereafter in the moment summation, because Fp causes no moment about the pivot point. Don't worry too much about shear force. Instead, you need to compute bending moment, M, on the paddle, which is Fw in your second diagram multiplied by the distance from Fw to the yellow bracket. After you obtain M, compute bending stress, sigma = M*c/I. Ensure sigma does not exceed Sty/FSy, where Sty = tensile yield strength, and FSy = yield factor of safety, such as 1.50 or 2.0.
 
Bending Moment is Fw*(2L-11/12L-L/2)=Fw*7L/12, and in your case depend on the velocity.
 

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