What Famous Physicist Built an Inaccurate Model of the Hydrogen Atom?

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The discussion revolves around a quiz format where participants answer trivia questions without using Google. Key points include the identification of unique facts about various animals, historical figures, and scientific concepts. Notable answers include ambergris, a substance from whales used in perfume, and the fact that elephants can go longer without water than camels. Participants also discussed Jonathan Swift's prescient description of Mars' moons in "Gulliver's Travels," and the refusal of William Clark from the Lewis and Clark expedition to eat dogs, which his companions resorted to during food shortages. The conversation also touched on the longest place name, with a focus on Welsh names, and the uniqueness of certain words when viewed upside down. The quiz format encouraged playful banter and collaborative guessing among participants, enhancing engagement and knowledge sharing.
  • #51
3. the kangaroo rat ?
 
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  • #52
Hypercase said:
3. the kangaroo rat ?
Good guess since rats are another animal that can go longer than a camel without drinking, but kangaroo rats are from N America, I'm looking for a well known animal from Africa.
 
  • #53
3) Giraffe? (hey, if I had to contort my neck that much to take a drink I wouldn't do it very often either...)

10) Cheez Whizz
 
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  • #54
plover said:
3) Giraffe? (hey, if I had to contort my neck that much to take a drink I wouldn't do it very often either...)
Correct! Giraffes get most of the water they need from the leaves of the Acacia tree. Bending over to drink makes the Giraffe vulnerable to predators, so they usually only drink in packs while several are on the "lookout".
 
  • #55
:cry: :cry: :cry: I missed it all. :cry: :cry: :cry:

Haven't read any responses yet, but by Evo's remarks, #7 is still open.

#7 is a Maori-name town in New Zealand. Don't know the name...but if you'd asked me about 6 years ago, I'd have probably got most of it.

There's a town in India by the name of Shriventakanarasimharajuvaripeta...but I don't think that even makes the top ten.
 
  • #56
brewnog said:
8 - Llanfairpwyllgwyngillgogerychwrndrobwillantisiligogogoch?

That's the one I was thinking of in Wales that Evo said wasn't it. See, I told you it had lots of Lls and not enough vowels! It actually is a description of the location of the town, something like down the winding lane, around the trees, over the stile, past the stream...(I'm just making it up as I go along now).
 
  • #57
Gokul43201 said:
:cry: :cry: :cry: I missed it all. :cry: :cry: :cry:

Haven't read any responses yet, but by Evo's remarks, #7 is still open.

#7 is a Maori-name town in New Zealand. Don't know the name...but if you'd asked me about 6 years ago, I'd have probably got most of it.
Where the heck have you been?

That's correct! Taumatawhakatangihangakoauotamateturipukakapikimaungahoro-Nukupokaiwhenua kitanatahu translates as the 'place where Tamatea, the man with the big knees, who slid, climbed and swallowed mountains, known as land-eater, played his flute to his loved one'. This is the place name recognised by the Guinness Book of Records.

#5 & #10 are the only ones left unanswered. Don't let me down!

5. What writer accurately described the two moons of Mars (including size and rotation) more than 100 years before they were discovered?

10. William Clark, of the famous Lewis & Clark expedition, was the only one in the expedition to refuse to eat this food. What was it?
 
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  • #58
5. Jules Verne
 
  • #59
arildno said:
5. Jules Verne
No, but good guess.
 
  • #60
10. Honey?
 
  • #61
BobG said:
10. Honey?
no

plover said:
10) Cheez Whizz
no

Ok, hint time. #10 is an animal you see every day

#5 the book was about little people
 
  • #62
#10...squirrel?
 
  • #63
Evo said:
5. What writer accurately described the two moons of Mars (including size and rotation) more than 100 years before they were discovered?

I've cheated a little on this, but still may not have the answer :

I opened a World Almanack (it's not Google :wink:) that I have, to look up famous writers from the 18th century (definitely not 19th, and 17th is unlikely but maybe possible). Here's the list :

Blake, William
Burns, Robert
Coleridge, Samuel Taylor
Defoe, Daniel
Dryden, John
Franklin, Benjamin
Goethe, Johann Wolfgang von
Goldsmith, Oliver
Hume, David
Johnson, Samuel
Kant, Immanuel
Paine, Thomas
Paine, Thomas
Robinson, Mary
Rousseau, Jean-Jacques
Scott, Walter
Southey, Robert
Swift, Jonathan
Voltaire, Jean-Marie Arouet de Candide
Wordsworth, William

There are three possibilities that I see here, but one name stands out bold - in a Jules Verne (which arildno cleverly guessed) kind of way.

Do you see what I see ?
 
  • #64
Moonbear said:
#10...squirrel?
I like this guess !

...also plover's guesses to the Lewis and Clark question :smile:
 
  • #65
Gokul43201 said:
I've cheated a little on this, but still may not have the answer :

I opened a World Almanack (it's not Google :wink:) that I have, to look up famous writers from the 18th century (definitely not 19th, and 17th is unlikely but maybe possible). Here's the list :

Blake, William
Burns, Robert
Coleridge, Samuel Taylor
Defoe, Daniel
Dryden, John
Franklin, Benjamin
Goethe, Johann Wolfgang von
Goldsmith, Oliver
Hume, David
Johnson, Samuel
Kant, Immanuel
Paine, Thomas
Paine, Thomas
Robinson, Mary
Rousseau, Jean-Jacques
Scott, Walter
Southey, Robert
Swift, Jonathan
Voltaire, Jean-Marie Arouet de Candide
Wordsworth, William

There are three possibilities that I see here, but one name stands out bold - in a Jules Verne (which arildno cleverly guessed) kind of way.

Do you see what I see ?
The correct author is in your list.
 
  • #66
Moonbear said:
#10...squirrel?]
Gokul43201 said:
I like this guess !

...also plover's guesses to the Lewis and Clark question :smile:
not the right animal though. Maybe if Clark had put some cheese wiz on it he might have eaten it.
 
  • #67
As to 5 and "little people", Liliputians were small, I think (at least Gulliver thought so)
 
  • #68
arildno said:
As to 5 and "little people", Liliputians were small, I think (at least Gulliver thought so)

That's my guess too. Just jumps out at you, when you have a list, eh ? I actually hadn't read the little people clue when I posted that list. It took me a while to find what I was looking for in the mess that I call a bookshelf.

Other possibilities I'm considering are Franklin and Blake. (not anymore)
 
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  • #69
Evo said:
BobG said:
Honey ?
no

He was just trying to get your attention, and you shun him thus ? Tut tut. :rolleyes:
 
  • #70
For some reason, Thomas Paine hasn't given up the fight yet, he's still lurking in the back of my mind. Hopefully, he'll leave when Evo approves of Jonathan Swift as the answer.
 
  • #71
Arildno & Gokul get joint credit for question #5 (good detective work Gokul).

Yes, Jonathan Swift very closely described the two moons of Mars in "Gulliver's Travels" published in 1726.

"An odd interlude concerns the moons of Mars. For a while, some people suggested that simple numerology required Mars to have 2 moons (Earth has 1, four were known for Jupiter...). Two were indeed discovered and named Phobos and Deimos by Asaph Hall at the US Naval Observatory in 1877. These are tiny (Deimos is still the smallest known natural satellite, only 7.5 km along the major axis of its potato shape), and Phobos has the distinction of being the only moon to orbit faster than its planet rotates, in a mere 8 hours. Remarkably (presciently, spookily, by purest chance) moons with similar properties had been described in the purely fictional setting of Jonathan Swift's Gulliver's Travels, published in 1726. Describing the Laputans and what they found from their flying island, he wrote, "They have likewise discovered two lesser Stars, or Satellites, which revolve about Mars; whereof the innermost is distant from the Center of the primary planet exactly three of his diameters, and the outermost five; and the former revolves in the space of ten hours, and the latter in twenty-one and an half...". Not too bad. I can't prognosticate that well by trying very hard; some folks have all the luck, but then Nobel hadn't established his prize yet anyway.

http://www.astr.ua.edu/keel/marsfest/history.html
 
  • #72
arildno said:
For some reason, Thomas Paine hasn't given up the fight yet, he's still lurking in the back of my mind. Hopefully, he'll leave when Evo approves of Jonathan Swift as the answer.

Paine had visions of little people ? Maybe a swarm of little people with little pens drafting a formula for the new world order, as Paine dictated ?
 
  • #73
Gokul43201 said:
Paine had visions of little people ? Maybe a swarm of little people with little pens drafting a formula for the new world order, as Paine dictated ?
He's left for good.
He had no business messing up my thinking in the first place, so good riddance to him.
I'm glad he's dead.
 
  • #74
Great question that, Evo :approve:

So it's down to the blasted foot taster ?

I have a guess : it's what I first thought of, but after reading other answers, thought they were better. I'm going to try centipede/millipede/one of those ugly things...oh, but these only have legs, not feet ! Drat !
 
  • #75
Is it cheating to keep guessing random animals I see everyday (or at least often...squirrels are the only beasts I see EVERY day raiding the bird feeders)?

Perhaps Clarke refused to eat crow?
 
  • #76
10) Dog, perhaps?
 
  • #77
Moonbear said:
Is it cheating to keep guessing random animals I see everyday (or at least often...squirrels are the only beasts I see EVERY day raiding the bird feeders)?

Perhaps Clarke refused to eat crow?
Ok, I will give it away below with a clue that no one could miss.

Here it is: eating this would be like eating your best friend
 
  • #78
arildno said:
10) Dog, perhaps?
Wow, we are psychically linked! I had just given the clue that would have given it away!

When the expedition started running low on food, they ate the dogs. Each man consumed 9lbs of meat per day on average. :bugeye:
 
  • #79
Oh ! I was going after the wrong question. 9 lbs of meat a day !??! :eek:

Someone famous wrote about eating dogs in one of his novels ...was it London ?
 
  • #80
Gokul43201 said:
Oh ! I was going after the wrong question. 9 lbs of meat a day !??! :eek:
I found this in an article in National Geographic titled "Sex, Dog Meat, and the Lash: Odd Facts About Lewis and Clark" :bugeye: I became worried that National Geographic was branching off into kinky stuff. :biggrin:

"Their favorite foods were always elk, beaver tail, and buffalo, and when they were struggling up the Missouri the men ate prodigious amounts of it, up to nine pounds of meat per man per day. But dogs would do if dogs were all that they could get. Only Clark abstained. He couldn't bring himself to eat dog meat."

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2003/12/1204_031204_lewisclark.html
 
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  • #81
Actually, beaver tail seems more nauseating to me than dog..
 
  • #82
Great Quiz, Evo ! :approve:

Despite being quite fond of van Eyck's works (he - in fact the realist movement itself, on a broader scale - was such a breath of fresh air from the medieval painters before him ), I had no idea he pioneered the use of oils ! Loved that one.

The physics questions (4, 15) were too easy for a place like this. :rolleyes:
 
  • #83
Gokul43201 said:
Great Quiz, Evo ! :approve:
Thanks, it took me half a day to find reliable sources to verify everything I was posting, but it was fun. Well, it took me that long because I can't stop reading when I find something new. :redface:

Despite being quite fond of van Eyck's works (he - in fact the realist movement itself, on a broader scale - was such a breath of fresh air from the medieval painters before him ), I had no idea he pioneered the use of oils ! Loved that one.
That one surprised me too.

The physics questions (4, 15) were too easy for a place like this. :rolleyes:
I know, but with my lack of knowledge of physics, I had to use information I could verify myself. :blushing:

Alright, who's posting the next quiz?
 
  • #84
Evo said:
Taumatawhakatangihangakoauotamateturipukakapikimaungahoro-Nukupokaiwhenua kitanatahu

Too bad I was too late, but actually I have:
Taumatawhakatangihangakoauauotamateaturipukakapikimaungahoronukupokaiwhenuakitanatahu
 
  • #85
#5 Jonathan Swift in Gulliver's Travels
 
  • #86
Evo u should have edited the first page!
Too bad that i missed it.
 
  • #87
how about BIB or BOB instead of NOON?
 
  • #88
tribdog said:
how about BIB or BOB instead of NOON?
Those only work, if, so to speak, you reflect through the x-axis rather than the usual "turn upside down" which is a 180° rotation.
 
  • #89
If you relax the palindrome constraint, you only have one more solution (I think) : MOW

And if you take out the capital letter contraint, you get just one more : pod

Allowing any combination of capital and small letters gives one additional possibility : dIp

Quite strange that the seemingly important palindromic constraint was not really !

On the other hand requiring invariance under reflection about a central x-axis (rether than a 180° rotation) opens up many more new solutions : BIB, BOB, DEED, DID, SEES, BOOB, etc.
 
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  • #90
SEES doesn't work... o:)
 
  • #91
The only one who does work is "I" (the pronoun). :-p

It has been suggested on the first page...So i claim no credit...

Daniel.
 
  • #92
plover said:
SEES doesn't work... o:)

Oops ! :redface: Guess I wass seeing right !
 
  • #93
Gokul43201 said:
If you relax the palindrome constraint, you only have one more solution (I think) : MOW

And if you take out the capital letter contraint, you get just one more : pod

Allowing any combination of capital and small letters gives one additional possibility : dIp

Quite strange that the seemingly important palindromic constraint was not really !

On the other hand requiring invariance under reflection about a central x-axis (rether than a 180° rotation) opens up many more new solutions : BIB, BOB, DEED, DID, SEES, BOOB, etc.
I think there must be more if you relax the palindrome and capital letter rule. you can use b/q, d/p, h/y, I/I, l/l, m/w, n/u, N/N, o/o, p/d, q/b, s/s, u/n, w/m, x/x, y/h, z/z
diN/Nip is one
 
  • #94
But dIN is not the same as NIp.

'pod' is another solution, but I don't think there's many more
 

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