What Forces Act on a Car Turning on a Circular Track?

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The discussion revolves around the forces acting on a car moving on a circular track, specifically focusing on calculating the frictional force and determining the maximum speed for safe negotiation of the turn. The subject area includes concepts from dynamics and circular motion.

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  • Participants explore the relationship between mass, speed, radius, and friction in circular motion. Questions are raised about the calculations for frictional force and the maximum speed, with some participants seeking clarification on the equations involved.

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Several participants have provided calculations and attempted to derive the frictional force and maximum speed. There is an ongoing exploration of the necessary equations and relationships, with some guidance offered regarding the application of centripetal force concepts.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework problem, which includes specific values for mass, speed, radius, and the coefficient of static friction. There is a focus on understanding the underlying physics rather than reaching a definitive solution.

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A car moves on a circular, flat track at a speed of 15.0 m/s. If the car's mass is 1150 kg, and the radius of the turn is 55.0 m, what is the frictional force between the car's tires and the road?
_____________

If the coefficient of static friction between the tires and the road is 0.930, what is the maximum speed that the car can have and still safely negotiate the turn?
_____________


is this what you need to do for the first part?
What do i need to do about the second part?

m = mass
u = coefficient of friction
g = 9.8 m/s^2
a = centripetal acceleration= (v^2)/r
r = radius
v = speed
To find the answer, you set

ΣF = ΣF
umg = ma
ug = (v^2)/r
 
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squintyeyes said:
A car moves on a circular, flat track at a speed of 15.0 m/s. If the car's mass is 1150 kg, and the radius of the turn is 55.0 m, what is the frictional force between the car's tires and the road?
_____________

If the coefficient of static friction between the tires and the road is 0.930, what is the maximum speed that the car can have and still safely negotiate the turn?
_____________


is this what you need to do for the first part?
What do i need to do about the second part?

m = mass
u = coefficient of friction
g = 9.8 m/s^2
a = centripetal acceleration= (v^2)/r
r = radius
v = speed
To find the answer, you set

ΣF = ΣF
umg = ma
ug = (v^2)/r

What force is supplying the centripetal force keeping the car in a circular path? And now what is the equation for calculating centripetal force?
 
You have the equation for centripetal acceleration. So multiply that by m...
F=ma... you have what a is for a mass moving in a circle.
 
so would part 1 equal 4,704.545 N? what about part 2
 
squintyeyes said:
so would part 1 equal 4,704.545 N? what about part 2

Ok that number means when you are going 15 m/s in a car of the mass given in a radius of 55m that the friction is supplying almost 5000 N of force.

So now if we know how "sticky" the surface between the tire and road is we can figure out the maximum force that friction can exert so that the car can continue in its circular path. The sticky number is mu... 0.9.. whatever.

You know mu, you can figure out what the normal force is... if you multiply these two numbers together what do you get?
 
the maximum friction force? maybe?
 
squintyeyes said:
the maximum friction force? maybe?

Yeps...

set that equal to mv^2/r and solve for the v...
 
thanks
 

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