What Frequency Equalizes Peak Voltages in an RC Circuit?

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The discussion revolves around an RC circuit where participants are tasked with finding the frequency at which the peak voltages across the capacitor and resistor are equal. The circuit consists of a capacitor (0.1μF), a resistor (1kΩ), and a voltage source. Participants are also exploring how this scenario would change if two resistors were used instead of a resistor and a capacitor.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss setting the voltages across the capacitor and resistor equal to each other to derive the frequency. There are questions about the interpretation of the next part of the problem regarding the peak voltage and its relationship to the input voltage. Some participants express confusion about the terms resistance and impedance, and how they relate to frequency.

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The discussion is active, with participants sharing their reasoning and calculations. Some have provided guidance on interpreting the problem and clarifying concepts, while others are still grappling with the implications of the equations presented. There is no explicit consensus yet, but progress is being made in understanding the relationships within the circuit.

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Participants note a lack of familiarity with circuit concepts and terminology, which may affect their ability to engage with the problem fully. There is also mention of potential confusion regarding the difference between resistance and impedance, indicating a need for clarification on these terms.

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Homework Statement


For the RC circuit shown in Fig. 1, at some frequency the peak voltage across the capacitor and resistor are equal. Find the frequency at which this occurs. Show that the peak voltage across the capacitor or the resistor at this frequency is given by Vin/ √ 2. How would this compare if we had two resistors R instead of a resistor and a capacitor?

fig 1. is an RC circuit with 1 capacitor (0.1μF), 1 resistor (1kΩ) and a voltage source.

Homework Equations


1. Zc = −i/ ωC
2. |Zc| = |Vc|/ |I| = 1/ ωC ,
3. R = V/I
4. ω=2πf

The Attempt at a Solution


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To be honest it's been a very long time since I've done any physics and I'm having a little difficulty re-learning all the circuit stuff.

To get the frequency the only thing I can think of is setting Vc equal to V to get

IR=I/wC=I/2πfC

Then,

f=1/2πCR

so,

f=1/2π(0.1μF)(1kΩ)=1591.55Hz

As for the next part, I'm really not sure what it is asking. Perhaps if I knew exactly what Vin/ √ 2 is then I'd be able to make some progress.

But using the formulas, the peak voltage across the capacitor is

|Vc|/ |I| = 1/ ωC (I think)

And I don't know a formula for the peak voltage across the resistor, the only formula I have for the resistor is

R = V/IAnd actually another thing I am confused about is the difference between resistance and impedance because it seems they use these terms interchangeably. Thanks guys.
 
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Is this a series or parallel circuit?
If V is the voltage across the resistor, then putting Vc=V is just what the description says.
Your reasoning looks long winded: if ##V_c=V## then ##Z_c=##?

The next part is asking you to rewrite your equation for the frequency in terms of the input voltage. Clearly the frequency cannot be the (scaled) input voltage since they don't have the same units.

Impedence is resistance that depends on frequency... so, at a constant frequency, they are the same thing.
 
This is a series circuit.

So what I have so far is that we are trying to find the frequency when |VR|=|VC|

|VR|=IR
|VC=I(1/wC)

IR=I(1/wC), w=2πf

Rearrange to get
f=1/(2πCR), or w=1/(CR)

Now to show that the peak voltage for the cap and the resistor at this frequency can be written as Vin/√2

I can take the ratio |VC|/|Vin|= (1/wC)/(R2+(1/wC)2)1/2

and so
|VC|/|Vin|=1/ (1+(wCR)2)1/2

plug in w=1/(CR) (from before)

and I get

|VC|/|Vin|=1/ (1+(CR/CR)2)1/2=|VC|/|Vin|=1/ (1+(1)2)1/2=1/√2

thus |VC|=|Vin|/√2
 
Well done.
 

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