What Grease is Used in Automotive Electrical Switches?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the types of grease used in automotive electrical switches, particularly regarding their impact on functionality in cold temperatures. Participants explore the suitability of different greases, potential repairs for damaged contacts, and the effects of temperature on electrical connections.

Discussion Character

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  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes their experience with a malfunctioning switch and questions whether aging grease may be causing contact issues in cold weather.
  • Another suggests that the wear on the switch contacts could lead to metal contraction in cold temperatures, potentially breaking contact.
  • There is a query about whether all greases allow electricity to pass or if specific types are needed for electrical applications.
  • One participant explains that grease is used to prevent corrosion by blocking moisture and oxygen from reaching the contacts, but acknowledges that aged grease may become stiff and impede contact.
  • Another proposes flushing out the grease with a solvent to see if it resolves the issue.
  • WD40 is mentioned as a potential solution for removing grease and keeping contacts dry, while also suggesting that the problem might lie in loose connections rather than the contacts themselves.
  • A more dismissive viewpoint suggests simply replacing the switch instead of attempting repairs.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing opinions on the effectiveness of grease in electrical switches and whether it should be replaced or removed. There is no consensus on the best approach to address the issues raised.

Contextual Notes

Participants discuss various types of grease, their properties, and the potential impact of temperature on electrical contacts. However, there are unresolved questions regarding the specific types of grease suitable for electrical applications and the best methods for repair.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in automotive maintenance, electrical engineering, or DIY repairs may find the discussion relevant.

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Hi,
I had auto lights failing and instead of let the mechanics supply me with a brand new switch unit at a great rate, I delved into the switch unit to see what was happening.
I noticed a lot of oil and grease in the box containing the switches. The contact plates were covered in the grease, some blackened with friction over time. The grease looked like it had transformed to an oil in places and had run over the insides of the box a little. I noticed the lever contact was rough and was gouging a deep scrape in the contacts. I sanded the problem areas to smooth and allow them to work more regardless of the groove.
I fixed the problem.
Then, on a cold night, the lights failed to work again.
I wonder if it's the grease that's getting old, is solidifying a little and more so in the cold and stopping the contact in the switch.
So have a couple of questions.
1/ What type of grease is it that they use in electrical auto switch components, that stops friction but allows electricity to pass well? or should you use grease in electrical switches for that matter?
2/ Is there an inexpensive, hard friction resistant electrical conductive product that could be applied to the gouge in the brass/copper (not sure what it is?) contact plate to make it smooth/flat like it was? Solder wouldn't be hard?, Epoxy products? other? Something to fix it like new without having to fabricate a new contact plate.
Thanks
 
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The temperature might well have something to do with it, but I'm not so sure that it's because of the grease stiffening up. If the wear in the switch was sufficient (particularly after you sanded it), the metal might contract enough in the cold to break contact. Try taking a hair dryer to the switch with it turned on but not conducting, and see if the lights come on.
As for building up the switch, a hard solder might be durable enough. I'd recommend against brazing with all that flammable stuff around.
I would suspect that the grease is either lithium-based or moly disulphide. Both are suitable for winter use in most locations.
 
No, the switch contacts are not avoiding each other in any way and one is sprung sufficiently to contact. The only thing that can be between them is that grease.
So do all greases allow electricity to pass, or are there special ones specifically for that purpose?

I will of course keep your suggestion in mind when I next disassemble the component, just in case!
 
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The grease is there to prevent oxygen and moisture in the atmosphere from getting getting on the switch contacts when they are closed. When a slight voltage is built up across a connection (impossible to avoid since no switch is perfect) moisture or oxygen can cause corrosion to start. The grease may very well have aged and become stiff to the point that the contacts cannot completely squeeze it out of the way when they close. As to what to replace it with? Not sure. Try google.
 
You might try just getting rid of the "grease". I would flush it out with methanol or some mild solvent. Then see if it works.
 
WD40 would work pretty well for removing the grease, and helping to keep the contacts dry. I agree with ASN that there might be a very thin layer of hardened grease in the way if it indeed looks to you as if there is contact.
Just as a side-note... no offense intended, but are you sure that the problem is in the contact interaction area? Could it maybe be a loose connection between the contacts and the wiring harness, for instance? That could suffer from the same thermal contraction that I mentioned in regard to the contacts earlier, and might be hard to see.
 
Don't be such a tightarse, get a new switch.
 

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