What Happens After an Elastic Glancing Collision Between Two Unequal Masses?

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The problem involves two particles with unequal masses undergoing an elastic glancing collision. One particle has mass m and is moving left, while the other has mass 2m and is moving right, both with the same initial speed. The scenario requires finding the final speeds of the particles and the angle at which one of them is scattered after the collision.

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  • Participants discuss the conservation of momentum and kinetic energy, suggesting the need to separate momentum into components. There are questions about how to effectively split speed vectors and the angles involved. Some suggest using a center of mass approach, while others emphasize the importance of visual aids like diagrams.

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The discussion is active, with participants offering guidance on how to approach the problem and encouraging the original poster to share their attempts for further feedback. There is a focus on clarifying the setup and ensuring understanding of the relevant principles.

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There is some confusion regarding the mass of the second particle, with a participant questioning whether it is 2m or 3m. The original poster expresses frustration over the complexity of the problem and seeks clarity on whether it is appropriate for their level of study.

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1. Homework Statement [/b]
Two particles with masses m and 2m are moving toward each other along the x-axis with the same initial speeds vi. Particle m is traveling to the left, while particle 3m is traveling to the right. They undergo an elastic glancing collision such that particle m is moving downward after the collision at right angles from its initial direction.
A)Find the final speeds of the two particles.
B) What is the angle theta at which the particle 3m is scattered?

I know momentum is conserved as well as kinetic energy. I also know that i must separate the momentum before and after into i-hat and j-hat components but i just can't set up the answer. I've been going at this for quite a few hours and I just want to see how its done so i can go to bed peacefully.

Is this suppose to be a "challenging" question or should steer away from physics past 1st year uni.
 
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I also know that i must separate the momentum before and after into i-hat and j-hat components but i just can't set up the answer.

You can separate the speeds in the same way before the collision.
Of course this separations will be done in a useful way.
How can you split the speed vector in two parts ?
Which angle between the two parts ? Which angle wrt to the original speed ?

Another way that may be simpler is to "play" wrt the center of mass.
 
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Instead of fighting with formulas for hours, just make a drawing (something like the attached picture) and everything will be clear. By the way, is the mass of the second particle 2m or 3m?
You know it well, the kinetic energy is conserved and both the x and y components of the momentum. What are these components of momentum for both bodies before and after the collision in terms of the initial speed (Vi) and the final ones (U1,U2) and the angle theta?


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Since you already know the facts I would suggest that you show the attempt so that we may correct you
 

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