What Happens at the Nuclear Level During Radioactive Emissions?

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The discussion revolves around the processes occurring at the nuclear level during radioactive emissions, specifically focusing on alpha and beta decay, as well as gamma radiation. Participants explore the implications of these emissions on atomic structure and stability, while also questioning the nature of particles involved in these processes.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether the new element formed after alpha decay becomes charged due to the number of electrons, and seeks clarification on the nuclear processes involved.
  • Another participant asserts that an alpha particle carries away two protons, suggesting that a neutral atom would become a 2- ion after decay.
  • There is a discussion about beta decay, where a neutron transforms into a proton and an electron, with one participant challenging the equivalence of pions and electrons in decay processes.
  • Concerns are raised about the nature of neutron decay and whether neutrons can decay into protons and pions, with one participant stating that this is a misunderstanding of decay versus virtual processes.
  • Participants discuss the emission of gamma radiation, with one suggesting that it is analogous to characteristic X-ray emission, where protons and neutrons can be excited to different energy levels before returning to a ground state.
  • A participant expresses uncertainty about the strong interaction model and requests clarification on the differences between old and new models, indicating a lack of consensus on this topic.
  • Another participant introduces the concept of decay modes and probabilities, explaining that a particle may have multiple decay paths, each with different likelihoods.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of neutron decay and the role of pions versus electrons, indicating a lack of consensus. There are also varying interpretations of gamma radiation and its implications for nuclear stability.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference different models and concepts related to nuclear decay, indicating potential limitations in understanding the underlying processes and the need for clearer definitions. The discussion reflects unresolved questions about the mechanisms of decay and the interactions involved.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to those studying nuclear physics, particle physics, or anyone seeking to understand the complexities of radioactive emissions and the interactions at the nuclear level.

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1. when alpha particles are emitted, the atomic number decreases by2, but is the new element charged due to more number of electrons? If not, what happens at the nuclear level? Please, Explain it simillarly about beta particles.
2.when describing the emission of beta particles, we say that

1n0 -----------> 1p+1 + 0e-1

but at the time of describing the nuclear stability, we say that

1n0 -----------> 1p+1 + 0π-1

SO are the pion and the electron one and the same? or does the neutron undergoes different reactions at different times? If yes, how does the neutron come to know, which reaction to undergo and when? If not, then what does exactly happen?

3. At the time of gamma radiations, neither atomic nor mass no. of an atom change, so what is the benefit or cause for any radioactive atom to emit gamma radiations? Does the radiation causes it to stabilize itself by some other way?


Please answer all these questions and you will help me understand all the concepts clearly.
 
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1. The alpha particle HAS Z=2! So it is carrying away two protons. So if it was a neutral atom decaying with alpha it will become a 2- ion

Beta decay, a neutron (Z=0) becomes proton (Z=+1) and electron (Z=-1).

2. No the pion and electron are different particles, and the guy who told you that neutrons can decay to a proton and a pion is wrong. Where did you find it? Maybe you are referring to the good'ol pion exchange model of the strong interaction?

3. Compare to atoms exmitting characteristic X-rays by letting the electron changing its state to a lower lyging one in Energy space -> protons and neutrons are orbiting around each other and can be excited to different levels and so on, so when going back to the ground state, Gamma rays are emitted.
 
malawi_glenn said:
Maybe you are referring to the good'ol pion exchange model of the strong interaction?

In fact my concepts about the model are quite unclear. So will you please tell me what the new model of strong interaction is and what the old model failed to explain to give rise to the new one?
 
I am not telling you that it is wrong because it is old, I am telling you that the neutron don't DECAY in this process:

1n0 -----------> 1p+1 + 0π-1

You are mixing concepts, you are mixing decay and a VIRTUAL process.

Any way, your question is in GENERAL this one:

Suppose you have a particle A, which has several decay modes: B,C,D

Now when the particle A "decides" to decay, it will choose one of possible B,C,D. BUT each decay mode is not equal probable in general. Say that the probability of decaying into B is 20%, C 70% and D 10%. Then you are back to basic theory of probability...
 

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