What Happens to sin(x)/x as x Approaches Infinity?

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The discussion revolves around the limit of the function sin(x)/x as x approaches infinity, exploring the behavior of this expression in the context of calculus.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mixed

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants attempt to evaluate the limit using substitution and express concerns about oscillation of the sine function versus the growth of the denominator. Some question whether they should accept the limit as zero without formal proof, while others suggest using the squeeze theorem despite not having learned it yet.

Discussion Status

The conversation includes various interpretations of the limit, with some participants providing informal reasoning and others offering insights into the relationship between the sine function and its denominator. There is acknowledgment of the oscillatory nature of sin(x) and its implications for the limit, but no consensus has been reached.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that they have not yet learned the squeeze theorem, which is relevant to the discussion of the limit. There is also mention of prior instruction regarding the limit of sin(x)/x as x approaches zero, which contrasts with the current limit being discussed.

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Homework Statement


[tex]\lim_{x \to \infty } \frac{\sin x}{x}[/tex]


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The Attempt at a Solution


[tex]\lim_{x \to \infty } \frac{\sin x}{x}[/tex]
Substitute x = 1/u
[tex]\lim_{\frac{1}{u} \to 0 } \frac{\sin \frac{1}{u}}{\frac{1}{u}} = 1[/tex]

I know this is incorrect because intuitively I know that sinx will oscillate between 0 and 1, but the denominator will grow larger infinitely, therefore should theoretically approach 0 but that's just my thinking and no hard evidence.
 
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PhizKid said:

Homework Statement


[tex]\lim_{x \to \infty } \frac{\sin x}{x}[/tex]


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


[tex]\lim_{x \to \infty } \frac{\sin x}{x}[/tex]
Substitute x = 1/u
[tex]\lim_{\frac{1}{u} \to 0 } \frac{\sin \frac{1}{u}}{\frac{1}{u}} = 1[/tex]

I know this is incorrect because intuitively I know that sinx will oscillate between 0 and 1, but the denominator will grow larger infinitely, therefore should theoretically approach 0 but that's just my thinking and no hard evidence.

Translate what you correctly know into an argument using the squeeze theorem.
 
We haven't learned the squeeze theorem, so should I just take sinx/x as x-> inf as 0 for granted and just memorize it like I do with sinx/x as x-> 0? (We were given sinx/x as x-> 0 to be 1, but were told to just memorize it)
 
PhizKid said:
We haven't learned the squeeze theorem, so should I just take sinx/x as x-> inf as 0 for granted and just memorize it like I do with sinx/x as x-> 0? (We were given sinx/x as x-> 0 to be 1, but were told to just memorize it)

No, there's no need to memorize it. Remember -1<=sin(x)<=1, so -1/x<=sin(x)/x<=1/x. Even if you don't have the theorem that should make it pretty obvious that the limit is 0.
 
PhizKid said:
[tex]\lim_{x \to \infty } \frac{\sin x}{x}[/tex]
Substitute x = 1/u
[tex]\lim_{\frac{1}{u} \to 0 } \frac{\sin \frac{1}{u}}{\frac{1}{u}} = 1[/tex]

That doesn't look right, if you're going to plug 1/u in for x then everything else needs to stay the same. As you have it there, you've changed the limit from [itex]x\to\infty[/itex] to [itex]\frac{1}{u} \to 0[/itex] when it should be [itex]\frac{1}{u} \to \infty[/itex]
But regardless, this won't help you.

PhizKid said:
We haven't learned the squeeze theorem, so should I just take sinx/x as x-> inf as 0 for granted and just memorize it like I do with sinx/x as x-> 0? (We were given sinx/x as x-> 0 to be 1, but were told to just memorize it)

Well then I guess you can just memorize it, but the squeeze theorem isn't very hard to understand really, especially for this example.

It's true that [tex]-1\leq \sin(x)\leq 1[/tex] right?
So if we divide all through by x, we get [tex]\frac{-1}{x}\leq \frac{\sin(x)}{x}\leq \frac{1}{x}[/tex]
And now we know that the limit as [itex]x\to\infty[/itex] for both [itex]-1/x[/itex] and [itex]1/x[/itex] is equal to zero, and since [itex]\sin(x)/x[/itex] is in between those, its limit must also be zero.
 
Wow, thank you. That helps a ton, so now I know how to explicitly state this
 

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