What happens to the gravitational field strength's magnitude if

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The discussion revolves around the gravitational field strength's magnitude in relation to changes in the distance (r) from a mass. Participants are examining how variations in r affect the gravitational field strength, specifically when r decreases by a factor of 4 and when r increases by a factor of 2.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the relationship between gravitational field strength and distance, referencing the equation g ∝ 1/r². There is confusion regarding the correct interpretation of changes in r, with some questioning the initial setup and others attempting to clarify the implications of the inverse square law.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights into the mathematical relationships involved, suggesting that reducing r by a factor of 4 results in a significant increase in gravitational field strength. Others are still seeking clarity on the correct interpretation of the problem and the underlying principles.

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There is a noted misunderstanding regarding the phrasing of the problem, particularly in how r is decreased or increased. Participants are also discussing the implications of the inverse square law in various contexts beyond gravity.

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Homework Statement


What happens to the gravitational field strength's magnitude if
a) r decreases by a factor of 4?
b) r increases by factor of 2

Homework Equations


i'm not sure which equation they are referring to? it may be g ∝ 1/r^2

The Attempt at a Solution


I tried to do this:
1/ (r-4)^2 and i got 1/(r^2 - 8r + 16)
the answer at the back of the book for a) says gravitational field strength's magnitude is supposed to become 16 times greater and for b) it's supposed to become 1/4 as great
please help
 
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chaishreen said:

Homework Statement


What happens to the gravitational field strength's magnitude if
a) r decreases by a factor of 4?
b) r increases by factor of 2

Homework Equations


i'm not sure which equation they are referring to? it may be g ∝ 1/r^2


The Attempt at a Solution


I tried to do this:
1/ (r-4)^2 and i got 1/(r^2 - 8r + 16)
the answer at the back of the book for a) says gravitational field strength's magnitude is supposed to become 16 times greater and for b) it's supposed to become 1/4 as great
please help

The radius has not decreased by 4, but by a factor of 4.

So r → r/4 (rather than r → r-4)
 
hey thanks, but is it g ∝ 1/(r/4)^2?
 
Fg=Gmm/r^2 so if you bring the masses 4 times closer and Gmm remain the same, then Fg' = Gmm/(r/4)^2. It follows that Fg'=Gmm/(r^2/4^2) which is Gmm/r^2/16, thus 16 (Gmm/r^2). Since Gmm/r^2is the original force, the new one is 16 times greater.

Likewise you can show that increasing r to 2r will make (2r)^2 = 4r^2, so the force will be 4 times smaller.
 
chaishreen said:
hey thanks, but is it g ∝ 1/(r/4)^2?

Expand that expression and what do you get? Compare it to the original 1/r2
 
chaishreen said:

Homework Statement


What happens to the gravitational field strength's magnitude if
a) r decreases by a factor of 4?
b) r increases by factor of 2

Homework Equations


i'm not sure which equation they are referring to? it may be g ∝ 1/r^2


The Attempt at a Solution


I tried to do this:
1/ (r-4)^2 and i got 1/(r^2 - 8r + 16)
the answer at the back of the book for a) says gravitational field strength's magnitude is supposed to become 16 times greater and for b) it's supposed to become 1/4 as great
please help

Also a simple approach is: this is an example if an "inverse square law" [some others are intensity of light, intensity of sound, electrical attraction between charges ...]

The inverse part tells you the change is opposite: reduce the separation - increase the force.
The square part tells you the size of change. change "r" by a factor of 4 → a "g" change of 42 (which is 16).
 

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