What Happens When the Hamiltonian in Dirac's Equation Isn't Linear in Momentum?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the implications of choosing a Hamiltonian that is not linear in momentum within the context of the Dirac equation in relativistic quantum mechanics. Participants explore theoretical aspects and the consequences of such a choice, referencing related equations like the Klein-Gordon equation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the outcomes of a non-linear Hamiltonian in the Dirac equation, expressing a desire to understand the results despite lacking the technical ability to explore it themselves.
  • Another participant asserts that the Hamiltonian must be linear in momentum, linking this requirement to the structure of the Schrödinger equation and the interchangeability of time and space in relativity.
  • A different participant suggests that a non-linear Hamiltonian leads to the Klein-Gordon field, implying a connection between the two formulations.
  • One participant challenges the assertion about linearity, arguing that relativity necessitates accepting a second time derivative rather than maintaining a first time derivative, and emphasizes that the Schrödinger equation is non-relativistic.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the necessity of a linear Hamiltonian in momentum, with some supporting this requirement and others contesting it by referencing the implications of relativity and the nature of the Klein-Gordon equation. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions regarding the definitions of linearity in this context and the implications of using a Hamiltonian that deviates from traditional forms. The discussion also touches on the mathematical structure of different quantum mechanical equations without reaching a consensus.

Tio Barnabe
When constructing a relativistic quantum mechanical equation, namely Dirac equation, what would happen if we choose the Hamiltonian so that it's not linear in the momentum operator and the rest energy?

You could say, why don't try it yourself and see what happens? That's because my knowledge is not enough to do that, but as I love QM I want to know what the result would be.
 
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By linear I assume you mean it's raised to the first power. The Hamiltonian has to be linear in momentum. This is because the Schrödinger equation is linear in the time derivative ##H\psi = i\hbar\partial_t \psi##. Now for relativity time an space are interchangeable, so the time and space derivatives should have the same order. Thus if we want only the first time derivative, we must have an equation linear in momentum.
 
Tio Barnabe said:
When constructing a relativistic quantum mechanical equation, namely Dirac equation, what would happen if we choose the Hamiltonian so that it's not linear in the momentum operator and the rest energy? [...]

You end up with the Hamiltonian for the Klein-Gordon field.
 
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thank you guys
 
MisterX said:
The Hamiltonian has to be linear in momentum. This is because the Schrödinger equation is linear in the time derivative ##H\psi = i\hbar\partial_t \psi##. Now for relativity time an space are interchangeable, so the time and space derivatives should have the same order. Thus if we want only the first time derivative, we must have an equation linear in momentum.

You have this backwards. What relativity forces on us is not a Hamiltonian linear in momentum; it's having to accept a second time derivative instead of a first time derivative. The Schrödinger equation is non-relativistic; when you try to make a relativistic analogue, you end up, as @dextercioby has pointed out, with the Klein-Gordon equation, which involves only second derivatives.
 

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